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Attributes | |
ACN | 543929 |
Time | |
Date | 200204 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : aus.tower |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 543929 |
Events | |
Independent Detector | other other : 1 |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | FAA ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | FAA |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : zla.artcc |
Narrative:
When filing an nrp with a valid SID, dispatchers and pilots should be confident that route will be flown. More times than not, lax tmy will change our san-msp flts to a totally different SID and route. The really serious part is that notification is given to the flight crew as they are taxiing to the departure runway. That is a safety violation in my opinion. Changing nrp rtes has to stop, but if necessary, 10-15 mins advance notice must be provided! Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: ZLA specialist advised that nrp route changes can be caused by WX factors, route balancing, ATC sector workload, and airspace confign changes. When a problem is recognized, coordination with the user is effect as soon as possible.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DISPATCHER CONCURRED WITH ZLA NRP RERTE CHANGES AFTER ACFT ARE TAXIING.
Narrative: WHEN FILING AN NRP WITH A VALID SID, DISPATCHERS AND PLTS SHOULD BE CONFIDENT THAT RTE WILL BE FLOWN. MORE TIMES THAN NOT, LAX TMY WILL CHANGE OUR SAN-MSP FLTS TO A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SID AND RTE. THE REALLY SERIOUS PART IS THAT NOTIFICATION IS GIVEN TO THE FLC AS THEY ARE TAXIING TO THE DEP RWY. THAT IS A SAFETY VIOLATION IN MY OPINION. CHANGING NRP RTES HAS TO STOP, BUT IF NECESSARY, 10-15 MINS ADVANCE NOTICE MUST BE PROVIDED! CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: ZLA SPECIALIST ADVISED THAT NRP RTE CHANGES CAN BE CAUSED BY WX FACTORS, RTE BALANCING, ATC SECTOR WORKLOAD, AND AIRSPACE CONFIGN CHANGES. WHEN A PROB IS RECOGNIZED, COORD WITH THE USER IS EFFECT ASAP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.