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Attributes | |
ACN | 545156 |
Time | |
Date | 200204 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ind.airport |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | agl single value : 500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ind.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 5l |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 5200 flight time type : 1600 |
ASRS Report | 545156 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : executed missed approach |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Weather |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
The problem arose while I was off frequency trying to contact the station with an in-range call. While I was off the frequency, the first officer, who was the PF, accepted the approach clearance. I returned to find us in a steep descent trying to catch the GS from 10000 ft. The flight spoilers were extended but due to the descent angle we were not slowing. I offered the advice of extending the gear to slow as well as leveling off to lower flaps, which we did. ATC asked if we thought we could get down in time, and the first officer replied 'yes.' the result was a missed approach with probably an airspeed above 200 KTS within the air traffic area and a missed heading during the missed approach. Poor judgement by first officer! Inaction by me to command re-vector.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CL65 FO DIVED TO LOSE ALT JUST OUTSIDE OF THE OM RESULTING IN AN UNSTABILIZED APCH, EXCEEDING MAX AIRSPD IN AN ARPT AREA AND MAKING A MISSED APCH.
Narrative: THE PROB AROSE WHILE I WAS OFF FREQ TRYING TO CONTACT THE STATION WITH AN IN-RANGE CALL. WHILE I WAS OFF THE FREQ, THE FO, WHO WAS THE PF, ACCEPTED THE APCH CLRNC. I RETURNED TO FIND US IN A STEEP DSCNT TRYING TO CATCH THE GS FROM 10000 FT. THE FLT SPOILERS WERE EXTENDED BUT DUE TO THE DSCNT ANGLE WE WERE NOT SLOWING. I OFFERED THE ADVICE OF EXTENDING THE GEAR TO SLOW AS WELL AS LEVELING OFF TO LOWER FLAPS, WHICH WE DID. ATC ASKED IF WE THOUGHT WE COULD GET DOWN IN TIME, AND THE FO REPLIED 'YES.' THE RESULT WAS A MISSED APCH WITH PROBABLY AN AIRSPD ABOVE 200 KTS WITHIN THE ATA AND A MISSED HDG DURING THE MISSED APCH. POOR JUDGEMENT BY FO! INACTION BY ME TO COMMAND RE-VECTOR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.