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Attributes | |
ACN | 545295 |
Time | |
Date | 200204 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sfo.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6200 msl bound upper : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : o90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 28r other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : o90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 2543 |
ASRS Report | 545295 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical inflight encounter : weather non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action other |
Consequence | other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure Operational Error |
Narrative:
While being vectored to join the localizer for runway 28R at sfo, level at 7000 ft, a plane appeared on TCASII climbing at us from below. It continued through about 6200 ft when the TCASII commanded us to descend. I began the descent through the intruder's altitude. As the TCASII started to command the descent, ATC contacted us with a routine radio call. The captain advised ATC we were responding to an RA. ATC then also saw the conflict and issued us a right turn away from the other plane. I started a right turn as we were descending. When the TCASII stopped commanding the descent, we were at 6500 ft and on a northwest heading. ATC then gave us a climb back to 7000 ft and a heading to join the localizer. I am not sure how close we were to the other plane, but estimate it was 1/2 - 2 mi. We were solid IMC and never saw the other plane. The other plane was climbing rapidly, so it was probably turbine pwred. Either ATC or the other plane was in error, I don't know which.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B767 FLC DSNDED IN RESPONSE TO A TCASII RA AND SUBSEQUENTLY INSTRUCTED BY APCH CTLR TO TURN TO AVOID TFC WHEN THE CREW ADVISED ATC OF THEIR RESPONSE TO TCASII.
Narrative: WHILE BEING VECTORED TO JOIN THE LOC FOR RWY 28R AT SFO, LEVEL AT 7000 FT, A PLANE APPEARED ON TCASII CLBING AT US FROM BELOW. IT CONTINUED THROUGH ABOUT 6200 FT WHEN THE TCASII COMMANDED US TO DSND. I BEGAN THE DSCNT THROUGH THE INTRUDER'S ALT. AS THE TCASII STARTED TO COMMAND THE DSCNT, ATC CONTACTED US WITH A ROUTINE RADIO CALL. THE CAPT ADVISED ATC WE WERE RESPONDING TO AN RA. ATC THEN ALSO SAW THE CONFLICT AND ISSUED US A R TURN AWAY FROM THE OTHER PLANE. I STARTED A R TURN AS WE WERE DSNDING. WHEN THE TCASII STOPPED COMMANDING THE DSCNT, WE WERE AT 6500 FT AND ON A NW HDG. ATC THEN GAVE US A CLB BACK TO 7000 FT AND A HDG TO JOIN THE LOC. I AM NOT SURE HOW CLOSE WE WERE TO THE OTHER PLANE, BUT ESTIMATE IT WAS 1/2 - 2 MI. WE WERE SOLID IMC AND NEVER SAW THE OTHER PLANE. THE OTHER PLANE WAS CLBING RAPIDLY, SO IT WAS PROBABLY TURBINE PWRED. EITHER ATC OR THE OTHER PLANE WAS IN ERROR, I DON'T KNOW WHICH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.