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A-320 first officer's report on the carriage of an unloaded gun in the cockpit belonging to a law enforcement officer which was later challenged by a rep of the chief pilots office at ZZZ, us.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 550967 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200206 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : rdu.airport |
| State Reference | NC |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A320 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : parked |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 1500 |
| ASRS Report | 550967 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | cabin event other non adherence : company policies other anomaly |
| Independent Detector | other other : supvr 6 |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Passenger Human Performance Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
Aprox 20 mins prior to pushback, the station manager came to the flight deck to speak with the captain. Apparently, a law enforcement officer had packed his unloaded gun in his checked baggage. The station manager wanted us to put his small bag in the flight deck as this was the only way to transport the gun. The captain declined. A few mins later the station manager returned with a representative from the tsa. He assured the captain that is was ok to transport the gun up front. The captain tried to call the chief pilots office, but only was able to get a phone tree that kept looping back to the main switchboard recording. He then tried to dial-up dispatch on the radio and that also failed. He then looked through his manual for a rule that would state that he could not do this. Since he couldn't find a specific rule stating that he could not do this and with the pressure of an on-time push, station manager, and the tsa rep, the captain decided he could do this. We were met at the destination by a rep from the chief pilots office telling us we should not have done this.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A-320 FO'S RPT ON THE CARRIAGE OF AN UNLOADED GUN IN THE COCKPIT BELONGING TO A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WHICH WAS LATER CHALLENGED BY A REP OF THE CHIEF PLTS OFFICE AT ZZZ, US.
Narrative: APROX 20 MINS PRIOR TO PUSHBACK, THE STATION MGR CAME TO THE FLIGHT DECK TO SPEAK WITH THE CAPT. APPARENTLY, A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER HAD PACKED HIS UNLOADED GUN IN HIS CHKED BAGGAGE. THE STATION MGR WANTED US TO PUT HIS SMALL BAG IN THE FLT DECK AS THIS WAS THE ONLY WAY TO TRANSPORT THE GUN. THE CAPT DECLINED. A FEW MINS LATER THE STATION MGR RETURNED WITH A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE TSA. HE ASSURED THE CAPT THAT IS WAS OK TO TRANSPORT THE GUN UP FRONT. THE CAPT TRIED TO CALL THE CHIEF PLTS OFFICE, BUT ONLY WAS ABLE TO GET A PHONE TREE THAT KEPT LOOPING BACK TO THE MAIN SWITCHBOARD RECORDING. HE THEN TRIED TO DIAL-UP DISPATCH ON THE RADIO AND THAT ALSO FAILED. HE THEN LOOKED THROUGH HIS MANUAL FOR A RULE THAT WOULD STATE THAT HE COULD NOT DO THIS. SINCE HE COULDN'T FIND A SPECIFIC RULE STATING THAT HE COULD NOT DO THIS AND WITH THE PRESSURE OF AN ON-TIME PUSH, STATION MGR, AND THE TSA REP, THE CAPT DECIDED HE COULD DO THIS. WE WERE MET AT THE DEST BY A REP FROM THE CHIEF PLTS OFFICE TELLING US WE SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THIS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.