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Attributes | |
ACN | 552385 |
Time | |
Date | 200207 |
Day | Mon |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mdst.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 552385 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Environmental Factor Aircraft Airport |
Primary Problem | Company |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Flight manual states that 'flight crew's are to disable egpws on approach to sti.' I looked in the A300 operating manual in normals and emergencys and could not find a normal procedure for deactivating the egpws. 1ST, safety is being compromised by operating into an airport with known high terrain without the egpws, especially at night or in IFR. 2ND, since there is no normal procedure for deactivating egpws, some pilots may turn off the entire GPWS system in error. Finally, the issue of egpws into sti is not an approach, only problem. It should remain deactivated until passing 4000 ft on departure. The flight manual 'must' be amended to include the specific instructions for deactivating the egpws and when it should be reactivated on departure. The terrain around that airport is serious and it's hard to understand how we can be operating into it without having it surveyed by check airmen and engineering to ensure adequate safety. Disabling the one thing that might prevent a hull loss is an unsafe procedure. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter discussed procedures in affect and was concerned with the safety of flight and possible CFIT with no warning ability. Subsequent to his report, the air carrier has issued new procedures and obtained the proper database for the egpws computer.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PROCS FOR EGPWS USE INTO MDST ARPT.
Narrative: FLT MANUAL STATES THAT 'FLC'S ARE TO DISABLE EGPWS ON APCH TO STI.' I LOOKED IN THE A300 OPERATING MANUAL IN NORMALS AND EMERS AND COULD NOT FIND A NORMAL PROC FOR DEACTIVATING THE EGPWS. 1ST, SAFETY IS BEING COMPROMISED BY OPERATING INTO AN ARPT WITH KNOWN HIGH TERRAIN WITHOUT THE EGPWS, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT OR IN IFR. 2ND, SINCE THERE IS NO NORMAL PROC FOR DEACTIVATING EGPWS, SOME PLTS MAY TURN OFF THE ENTIRE GPWS SYS IN ERROR. FINALLY, THE ISSUE OF EGPWS INTO STI IS NOT AN APCH, ONLY PROB. IT SHOULD REMAIN DEACTIVATED UNTIL PASSING 4000 FT ON DEP. THE FLT MANUAL 'MUST' BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE THE SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS FOR DEACTIVATING THE EGPWS AND WHEN IT SHOULD BE REACTIVATED ON DEP. THE TERRAIN AROUND THAT ARPT IS SERIOUS AND IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN BE OPERATING INTO IT WITHOUT HAVING IT SURVEYED BY CHK AIRMEN AND ENGINEERING TO ENSURE ADEQUATE SAFETY. DISABLING THE ONE THING THAT MIGHT PREVENT A HULL LOSS IS AN UNSAFE PROC. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR DISCUSSED PROCS IN AFFECT AND WAS CONCERNED WITH THE SAFETY OF FLT AND POSSIBLE CFIT WITH NO WARNING ABILITY. SUBSEQUENT TO HIS RPT, THE ACR HAS ISSUED NEW PROCS AND OBTAINED THE PROPER DATABASE FOR THE EGPWS COMPUTER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.