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Attributes | |
ACN | 553088 |
Time | |
Date | 200207 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : fll.vor |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl single value : 18000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Thunderstorm |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zma.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Learjet 45 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 3900 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 553088 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 553085 |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : provided flight assist |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance Weather |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was acting as the first officer, and also the PF. We departed runway 8 at fxe and were flying a 090 degree heading. Shortly after departure, our radar was painting a line of cells extending on a north/south line. The captain asked for deviation south of course for the WX. ATC responded 'unable' and 'turn left heading 070 degrees.' the captain then questioned the heading and said, 'a south heading would work better for us.' ATC responded that there was a flow of traffic inbound to the area coming around the south and that the southern heading would not work. We turned to the 070 degree heading. The radar confirmed the 070 degree heading would take us north of the line. ATC advised us 'cleared direct new bight when able.' after receiving this clearance, I entered direct to new bight on the second FMS and looked at the course display on the mfd. It confirmed that a direct course would take us through the northern cell and made a direct still unsafe. I determined we would need a few more mins on this heading before making the turn. At this point, the PIC asked why I wasn't taking a turn to the south. I replied that we still needed a few mi on this heading before turning. He then said that if ATC cleared us direct to new bight, we could deviate south of the line and then proceed direct. A heading of 180 degrees or so would be necessary to stay clear of the WX. I then questioned the statement and said 'are you sure they don't want us to stay on this heading, and when clear then make the turn?' he said no, and instructed me to make the turn to the south. I was uncomfortable with this and again questioned the turn with him. Again he instructed the southern turn, at which point I turned. Soon after the turn, ATC asked for our current heading. The PIC replied '170.' ATC then proceeded to inform us that was not the intent of the clearance and that we shouldn't have made the turn. I think it is clear that a breakdown in communications occurred. As the first officer I was unsure of an appropriate response and felt that after questioning the PIC twice, my responsibility was to comply with his direction. Looking back, I think the best course of action would have been to query ATC further before taking any action.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A LEARJET 45 FLC HAS A BREAKDOWN OF COCKPIT CRM.
Narrative: I WAS ACTING AS THE FO, AND ALSO THE PF. WE DEPARTED RWY 8 AT FXE AND WERE FLYING A 090 DEG HDG. SHORTLY AFTER DEP, OUR RADAR WAS PAINTING A LINE OF CELLS EXTENDING ON A N/S LINE. THE CAPT ASKED FOR DEV S OF COURSE FOR THE WX. ATC RESPONDED 'UNABLE' AND 'TURN L HDG 070 DEGS.' THE CAPT THEN QUESTIONED THE HDG AND SAID, 'A S HDG WOULD WORK BETTER FOR US.' ATC RESPONDED THAT THERE WAS A FLOW OF TFC INBOUND TO THE AREA COMING AROUND THE S AND THAT THE SOUTHERN HDG WOULD NOT WORK. WE TURNED TO THE 070 DEG HDG. THE RADAR CONFIRMED THE 070 DEG HDG WOULD TAKE US N OF THE LINE. ATC ADVISED US 'CLRED DIRECT NEW BIGHT WHEN ABLE.' AFTER RECEIVING THIS CLRNC, I ENTERED DIRECT TO NEW BIGHT ON THE SECOND FMS AND LOOKED AT THE COURSE DISPLAY ON THE MFD. IT CONFIRMED THAT A DIRECT COURSE WOULD TAKE US THROUGH THE NORTHERN CELL AND MADE A DIRECT STILL UNSAFE. I DETERMINED WE WOULD NEED A FEW MORE MINS ON THIS HDG BEFORE MAKING THE TURN. AT THIS POINT, THE PIC ASKED WHY I WASN'T TAKING A TURN TO THE S. I REPLIED THAT WE STILL NEEDED A FEW MI ON THIS HDG BEFORE TURNING. HE THEN SAID THAT IF ATC CLRED US DIRECT TO NEW BIGHT, WE COULD DEVIATE S OF THE LINE AND THEN PROCEED DIRECT. A HDG OF 180 DEGS OR SO WOULD BE NECESSARY TO STAY CLR OF THE WX. I THEN QUESTIONED THE STATEMENT AND SAID 'ARE YOU SURE THEY DON'T WANT US TO STAY ON THIS HDG, AND WHEN CLR THEN MAKE THE TURN?' HE SAID NO, AND INSTRUCTED ME TO MAKE THE TURN TO THE S. I WAS UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THIS AND AGAIN QUESTIONED THE TURN WITH HIM. AGAIN HE INSTRUCTED THE SOUTHERN TURN, AT WHICH POINT I TURNED. SOON AFTER THE TURN, ATC ASKED FOR OUR CURRENT HDG. THE PIC REPLIED '170.' ATC THEN PROCEEDED TO INFORM US THAT WAS NOT THE INTENT OF THE CLRNC AND THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE MADE THE TURN. I THINK IT IS CLR THAT A BREAKDOWN IN COMS OCCURRED. AS THE FO I WAS UNSURE OF AN APPROPRIATE RESPONSE AND FELT THAT AFTER QUESTIONING THE PIC TWICE, MY RESPONSIBILITY WAS TO COMPLY WITH HIS DIRECTION. LOOKING BACK, I THINK THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION WOULD HAVE BEEN TO QUERY ATC FURTHER BEFORE TAKING ANY ACTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.