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Attributes | |
ACN | 553476 |
Time | |
Date | 200207 |
Day | Thu |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : hio.airport |
State Reference | OR |
Altitude | msl single value : 1020 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other ndb |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 1225 flight time type : 1225 |
ASRS Report | 553476 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I was instructing an instrument student in a C172 aircraft X, executing an NDB approach to hillsboro, or. Aircraft X made the initial call to hillsboro tower. Tower responded with 'report 2 mi final.' time was started at abate LOM and aircraft X descended from 2900 ft MSL to 1020 ft MSL. Approach speed was 90 KTS. Time was counting down from 4 mins. At approximately 1 min 30 seconds remaining, an aircraft was seen closing rapidly and in a climb out from runway 30 at hillsboro. It executed a right turn. Aircraft X doglegged to the right and continued the approach on the south side of runway 12. Shortly after seeing the departing aircraft turn, a second aircraft was seen climbing out from runway 30. It, too, climbed and turned right. Shortly thereafter, a third aircraft was seen. It followed the first two. Aircraft X called missed approach and started to climb and turn toward the newberg (ubg) VOR. Aircraft X was directed to call portland approach. Shortly after checking in with portland approach, they requested that I call hillsboro tower upon landing. That was done. I spoke to a gentleman. We spoke about what had transpired. He indicated that I should have called abate LOM. I realized that the FAF or the OM on a non precision approach should be called. I have been flying into hillsboro for several yrs as a flight instructor. Any of several points are requested to be called when on the inbound leg to runway 12. When abate is not called, no cautionary statements have ever been offered by the tower. Other points that are often requested for callout are the sunset highway and as in this flight, 2 mi final. At other times, the tower directs that it will call missed approach. Since there is no DME function for runway 12 into hillsboro, the only way to call a 2 mi final is to estimate it. I followed the lead of the tower and intended to attempt to call a 2 mi final. I feel that we were outside of the required reporting point when the incident occurred. At no time while on tower frequency did I hear any conversation between the tower and any other aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT HAD LESS THAN LEGAL SEPARATION WITH 3 ACFT IN HIO CLASS D AIRSPACE.
Narrative: I WAS INSTRUCTING AN INST STUDENT IN A C172 ACFT X, EXECUTING AN NDB APCH TO HILLSBORO, OR. ACFT X MADE THE INITIAL CALL TO HILLSBORO TWR. TWR RESPONDED WITH 'RPT 2 MI FINAL.' TIME WAS STARTED AT ABATE LOM AND ACFT X DSNDED FROM 2900 FT MSL TO 1020 FT MSL. APCH SPD WAS 90 KTS. TIME WAS COUNTING DOWN FROM 4 MINS. AT APPROX 1 MIN 30 SECONDS REMAINING, AN ACFT WAS SEEN CLOSING RAPIDLY AND IN A CLBOUT FROM RWY 30 AT HILLSBORO. IT EXECUTED A R TURN. ACFT X DOGLEGGED TO THE R AND CONTINUED THE APCH ON THE S SIDE OF RWY 12. SHORTLY AFTER SEEING THE DEPARTING ACFT TURN, A SECOND ACFT WAS SEEN CLBING OUT FROM RWY 30. IT, TOO, CLBED AND TURNED R. SHORTLY THEREAFTER, A THIRD ACFT WAS SEEN. IT FOLLOWED THE FIRST TWO. ACFT X CALLED MISSED APCH AND STARTED TO CLB AND TURN TOWARD THE NEWBERG (UBG) VOR. ACFT X WAS DIRECTED TO CALL PORTLAND APCH. SHORTLY AFTER CHKING IN WITH PORTLAND APCH, THEY REQUESTED THAT I CALL HILLSBORO TWR UPON LNDG. THAT WAS DONE. I SPOKE TO A GENTLEMAN. WE SPOKE ABOUT WHAT HAD TRANSPIRED. HE INDICATED THAT I SHOULD HAVE CALLED ABATE LOM. I REALIZED THAT THE FAF OR THE OM ON A NON PRECISION APCH SHOULD BE CALLED. I HAVE BEEN FLYING INTO HILLSBORO FOR SEVERAL YRS AS A FLT INSTRUCTOR. ANY OF SEVERAL POINTS ARE REQUESTED TO BE CALLED WHEN ON THE INBOUND LEG TO RWY 12. WHEN ABATE IS NOT CALLED, NO CAUTIONARY STATEMENTS HAVE EVER BEEN OFFERED BY THE TWR. OTHER POINTS THAT ARE OFTEN REQUESTED FOR CALLOUT ARE THE SUNSET HWY AND AS IN THIS FLT, 2 MI FINAL. AT OTHER TIMES, THE TWR DIRECTS THAT IT WILL CALL MISSED APCH. SINCE THERE IS NO DME FUNCTION FOR RWY 12 INTO HILLSBORO, THE ONLY WAY TO CALL A 2 MI FINAL IS TO ESTIMATE IT. I FOLLOWED THE LEAD OF THE TWR AND INTENDED TO ATTEMPT TO CALL A 2 MI FINAL. I FEEL THAT WE WERE OUTSIDE OF THE REQUIRED RPTING POINT WHEN THE INCIDENT OCCURRED. AT NO TIME WHILE ON TWR FREQ DID I HEAR ANY CONVERSATION BTWN THE TWR AND ANY OTHER ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.