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Saab 340 first officer is questioned by FAA regarding a previous flight wherein they responded 2 times to TCASII RA's bringing them within 300 ft of one another.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 555749 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200207 |
| Day | Sun |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : sba.tracon |
| State Reference | CA |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sba.tracon tower : avp.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Saab-Scania Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 555749 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : nmac non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 300 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure ATC Facility ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
FAA inquiry regarding altitude deviation TCASII RA. We responded to 2 consecutive TCASII RA's. The first aircraft was approximately 300 ft below. After climbing approximately 300 ft, we received the second RA to descend. We followed the TCASII direction as we had not established visual contact. We then notified ATC of the RA and they seemed uninterested. We were later cleared for the visual to runway 25 and landed without incident. This is the only unusual occurrence that took place on this flight. In the future, it might be helpful if the FAA actually said what was being investigated, ie, our actions -- the TCASII targets, or the controller. Right now we are in the dark as to what is being investigated. I hope this incident is the one in which the FAA is being investigated.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SAAB 340 FO IS QUESTIONED BY FAA REGARDING A PREVIOUS FLT WHEREIN THEY RESPONDED 2 TIMES TO TCASII RA'S BRINGING THEM WITHIN 300 FT OF ONE ANOTHER.
Narrative: FAA INQUIRY REGARDING ALT DEV TCASII RA. WE RESPONDED TO 2 CONSECUTIVE TCASII RA'S. THE FIRST ACFT WAS APPROX 300 FT BELOW. AFTER CLBING APPROX 300 FT, WE RECEIVED THE SECOND RA TO DSND. WE FOLLOWED THE TCASII DIRECTION AS WE HAD NOT ESTABLISHED VISUAL CONTACT. WE THEN NOTIFIED ATC OF THE RA AND THEY SEEMED UNINTERESTED. WE WERE LATER CLRED FOR THE VISUAL TO RWY 25 AND LANDED WITHOUT INCIDENT. THIS IS THE ONLY UNUSUAL OCCURRENCE THAT TOOK PLACE ON THIS FLT. IN THE FUTURE, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF THE FAA ACTUALLY SAID WHAT WAS BEING INVESTIGATED, IE, OUR ACTIONS -- THE TCASII TARGETS, OR THE CTLR. RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN THE DARK AS TO WHAT IS BEING INVESTIGATED. I HOPE THIS INCIDENT IS THE ONE IN WHICH THE FAA IS BEING INVESTIGATED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.