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Instructor does not validate prior to training flight that student had obtained correct preflight information as required by far.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 556469 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200208 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mwl.airport |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lfpg.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | PA-34-200T Turbo Seneca II |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | ground : parked |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 29 flight time total : 2491 flight time type : 9.2 |
| ASRS Report | 556469 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
On the above date, I went flying with a student that flies frequently. After the flight, the student admitted that he had not received a full briefing for our flight, but had rather relied on internet WX and NOTAMS (not duats -- but another site) and information secured from another flight earlier that same day. Since there is, therefore, no record of a briefing for our flight with a FSS (ie, our tail number is not on file), I am not certain we complied fully with 91.103 far preflight action. As he was a very experienced pilot, I relied too much on his actions. In the future, I will insist every student call and receive a full briefing prior to every flight, for that specific flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR DOES NOT VALIDATE PRIOR TO TRAINING FLT THAT STUDENT HAD OBTAINED CORRECT PREFLT INFO AS REQUIRED BY FAR.
Narrative: ON THE ABOVE DATE, I WENT FLYING WITH A STUDENT THAT FLIES FREQUENTLY. AFTER THE FLT, THE STUDENT ADMITTED THAT HE HAD NOT RECEIVED A FULL BRIEFING FOR OUR FLT, BUT HAD RATHER RELIED ON INTERNET WX AND NOTAMS (NOT DUATS -- BUT ANOTHER SITE) AND INFO SECURED FROM ANOTHER FLT EARLIER THAT SAME DAY. SINCE THERE IS, THEREFORE, NO RECORD OF A BRIEFING FOR OUR FLT WITH A FSS (IE, OUR TAIL NUMBER IS NOT ON FILE), I AM NOT CERTAIN WE COMPLIED FULLY WITH 91.103 FAR PREFLT ACTION. AS HE WAS A VERY EXPERIENCED PLT, I RELIED TOO MUCH ON HIS ACTIONS. IN THE FUTURE, I WILL INSIST EVERY STUDENT CALL AND RECEIVE A FULL BRIEFING PRIOR TO EVERY FLT, FOR THAT SPECIFIC FLT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.