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C560XL captain complaint about the saratoga springs, ny airport unicom operator who will not respond to reporting cpr fractional aircraft operators due to disruption of glider activities.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 556667 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200208 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : 5b2.airport |
| State Reference | CO |
| Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Citation V |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Sail Plane |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | ground : parked |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 6 flight time total : 8200 flight time type : 470 |
| ASRS Report | 556667 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe conflict : ground less severe ground encounters other non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft Airport |
| Primary Problem | Airport |
| Situations | |
| Airport | procedure or policy : 5b2.airport |
Narrative:
Starting at 10 mi, I made calls on unicom frequency at 5b2, saratoga springs, ny. Calls were made on downwind, base, and final. On final, crew saw gliders pushed off runway 23. Gliders and crews would not move more than 2 ft from edge of runway. 'Unicom will not answer radio calls from fractional aircraft.' this statement is the opinion of mr X of xyz flight services. He advised me that the gliders are a hazard and unicom operators hate fractional providers. He also stated that he needs help in improving the safety of the field. I witnessed gliders cutting pwred aircraft out of the final approach pattern twice. The lack of the unicom operator to make advisory announcements to landing aircraft is a hazard to safe operations. Help! When departing the airport, gliders are so close to the runway I was concerned with my safety and my jetblast disrupting their morning.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C560XL CAPT COMPLAINT ABOUT THE SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY ARPT UNICOM OPERATOR WHO WILL NOT RESPOND TO RPTING CPR FRACTIONAL ACFT OPERATORS DUE TO DISRUPTION OF GLIDER ACTIVITIES.
Narrative: STARTING AT 10 MI, I MADE CALLS ON UNICOM FREQ AT 5B2, SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY. CALLS WERE MADE ON DOWNWIND, BASE, AND FINAL. ON FINAL, CREW SAW GLIDERS PUSHED OFF RWY 23. GLIDERS AND CREWS WOULD NOT MOVE MORE THAN 2 FT FROM EDGE OF RWY. 'UNICOM WILL NOT ANSWER RADIO CALLS FROM FRACTIONAL ACFT.' THIS STATEMENT IS THE OPINION OF MR X OF XYZ FLT SVCS. HE ADVISED ME THAT THE GLIDERS ARE A HAZARD AND UNICOM OPERATORS HATE FRACTIONAL PROVIDERS. HE ALSO STATED THAT HE NEEDS HELP IN IMPROVING THE SAFETY OF THE FIELD. I WITNESSED GLIDERS CUTTING PWRED ACFT OUT OF THE FINAL APCH PATTERN TWICE. THE LACK OF THE UNICOM OPERATOR TO MAKE ADVISORY ANNOUNCEMENTS TO LNDG ACFT IS A HAZARD TO SAFE OPS. HELP! WHEN DEPARTING THE ARPT, GLIDERS ARE SO CLOSE TO THE RWY I WAS CONCERNED WITH MY SAFETY AND MY JETBLAST DISRUPTING THEIR MORNING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.