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Md-S80 flight crew responded to another aircraft's clearance for taxi in position and hold resulting in crossing the runway hold short line at dfw.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 556717 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200208 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw.airport |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : ord.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : dfw.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi ground : position and hold |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
| ASRS Report | 556717 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 556718 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe ground encounters other incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Our aircraft was holding short of runway 17R, and there were no other aircraft in sight at the hold short area. Tower cleared aircraft (company call sign) to 'position and hold' on runway 17R. Looking around again, we saw there were no other aircraft at the departure area. Assuming that the controller misread our flight number, I read back 'aircraft X, position and hold, runway 17R.' there was no response from tower. As we began to cross the hold short line, we heard a voice on tower frequency ask tower to verify that the position and hold clearance was for aircraft Y. Tower replied, affirmative. We held our position, about 15 ft past the hold short line, and I advised tower that aircraft X had read back the position and hold clearance, and that we were about 15 ft past the hold short line. It was about this time that we saw aircraft Y turn the corner and approach the hold short area. Tower asked aircraft Y if he had enough room, and he replied yes and received a clearance to take off.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD-S80 FLC RESPONDED TO ANOTHER ACFT'S CLRNC FOR TAXI IN POS AND HOLD RESULTING IN XING THE RWY HOLD SHORT LINE AT DFW.
Narrative: OUR ACFT WAS HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 17R, AND THERE WERE NO OTHER ACFT IN SIGHT AT THE HOLD SHORT AREA. TWR CLRED ACFT (COMPANY CALL SIGN) TO 'POS AND HOLD' ON RWY 17R. LOOKING AROUND AGAIN, WE SAW THERE WERE NO OTHER ACFT AT THE DEP AREA. ASSUMING THAT THE CTLR MISREAD OUR FLT NUMBER, I READ BACK 'ACFT X, POS AND HOLD, RWY 17R.' THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM TWR. AS WE BEGAN TO CROSS THE HOLD SHORT LINE, WE HEARD A VOICE ON TWR FREQ ASK TWR TO VERIFY THAT THE POS AND HOLD CLRNC WAS FOR ACFT Y. TWR REPLIED, AFFIRMATIVE. WE HELD OUR POS, ABOUT 15 FT PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE, AND I ADVISED TWR THAT ACFT X HAD READ BACK THE POS AND HOLD CLRNC, AND THAT WE WERE ABOUT 15 FT PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE. IT WAS ABOUT THIS TIME THAT WE SAW ACFT Y TURN THE CORNER AND APCH THE HOLD SHORT AREA. TWR ASKED ACFT Y IF HE HAD ENOUGH ROOM, AND HE REPLIED YES AND RECEIVED A CLRNC TO TAKE OFF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.