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Attributes | |
ACN | 557952 |
Time | |
Date | 200208 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : grr.airport |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Weather Elements | Fog |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : hef.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | SF 340B |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : position and hold ground : takeoff roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 2200 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 557952 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Weather Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Our crew waited for the RVR to reach 1600 ft to depart. We received a good RVR report 1800 ft and were instructed to taxi into position and hold. (A carj had just departed in front of us.) as we taxied up to the approach end of the runway, tower advised us they had bad news -- RVR had just dropped to 1000 ft. According to our operations specifications, we can depart with 600 ft RVR with appropriate markings, ie, centerline lights. We thought we had them and accepted the departure. During the takeoff roll, I realized we, in fact, were lacking the required centerline lights, but we could see the end of the runway (5000+ RVR). I called the tower controller later and he confirmed that the 1000 ft RVR report wasn't accurate, in fact, we had 1800+ ft RVR. In essence, although we were legal to depart, we accepted an illegal takeoff clearance based on assumed/reported RVR due to flawed thinking. Our mistake was one of intent, not of actuality. In summary, although technically, no FARS were broken, we needed to be more familiar with required markings/lights for low visibility departures. Major contributing factor: fatigue. We had completed 2 previous continuous duty cycles.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN SF34 CREW, DEPARTING GRR, ACCEPTED A TKOF CLRNC WITH THE RVR RPTED BELOW THEIR LEGAL LIMITS.
Narrative: OUR CREW WAITED FOR THE RVR TO REACH 1600 FT TO DEPART. WE RECEIVED A GOOD RVR RPT 1800 FT AND WERE INSTRUCTED TO TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD. (A CARJ HAD JUST DEPARTED IN FRONT OF US.) AS WE TAXIED UP TO THE APCH END OF THE RWY, TWR ADVISED US THEY HAD BAD NEWS -- RVR HAD JUST DROPPED TO 1000 FT. ACCORDING TO OUR OPS SPECS, WE CAN DEPART WITH 600 FT RVR WITH APPROPRIATE MARKINGS, IE, CTRLINE LIGHTS. WE THOUGHT WE HAD THEM AND ACCEPTED THE DEP. DURING THE TKOF ROLL, I REALIZED WE, IN FACT, WERE LACKING THE REQUIRED CTRLINE LIGHTS, BUT WE COULD SEE THE END OF THE RWY (5000+ RVR). I CALLED THE TWR CTLR LATER AND HE CONFIRMED THAT THE 1000 FT RVR RPT WASN'T ACCURATE, IN FACT, WE HAD 1800+ FT RVR. IN ESSENCE, ALTHOUGH WE WERE LEGAL TO DEPART, WE ACCEPTED AN ILLEGAL TKOF CLRNC BASED ON ASSUMED/RPTED RVR DUE TO FLAWED THINKING. OUR MISTAKE WAS ONE OF INTENT, NOT OF ACTUALITY. IN SUMMARY, ALTHOUGH TECHNICALLY, NO FARS WERE BROKEN, WE NEEDED TO BE MORE FAMILIAR WITH REQUIRED MARKINGS/LIGHTS FOR LOW VISIBILITY DEPS. MAJOR CONTRIBUTING FACTOR: FATIGUE. WE HAD COMPLETED 2 PREVIOUS CONTINUOUS DUTY CYCLES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.