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A320 crew had a TCASII RA departing lga on the lga 9 SID on the flushing climb in N90 class B airspace.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 558866 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200208 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lga.airport |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | agl single value : 1000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A320 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | departure sid : ns |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Helicopter |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 500 |
| ASRS Report | 558866 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action none taken : detected after the fact other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 1500 vertical : 500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Climbing out of lga on runway 13, we were given the flushing climb. The SID with the flushing climb is runway heading to 2.5 DME then a left turn to 040 degrees. I was flying and performed a maximum toga climb. At approximately 1000 ft, I reduced the power to climb and was about to call for flaps 0 degrees. I lowered the nose slightly and immediately got 'monitor vertical speed.' within 2 seconds I got the 'climb, crossing, climb' RA. I continued with a maximum climb and the RA went away almost immediately. Because I was the PF I did not get a good look at where the aircraft was. The captain figured it to be 400 ft. He was not sure if it was above or below and he thought the RA was a 'climb, crossing, climb' and not a 'climb, climb, climb.' I can't recall for sure. The captain figured the aircraft was at 1/4 mi or less from the TCASII picture. Departure said it was a helicopter, over a sporting event. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: this is the first time the pilot has had a TCASII RA so soon after takeoff. He does not think ATC should allow aircraft operation so close to departing aircraft. He stated it really was a startling, adrenaline pumping event. He said 'thank god for TCASII.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A320 CREW HAD A TCASII RA DEPARTING LGA ON THE LGA 9 SID ON THE FLUSHING CLB IN N90 CLASS B AIRSPACE.
Narrative: CLBING OUT OF LGA ON RWY 13, WE WERE GIVEN THE FLUSHING CLB. THE SID WITH THE FLUSHING CLB IS RWY HDG TO 2.5 DME THEN A L TURN TO 040 DEGS. I WAS FLYING AND PERFORMED A MAX TOGA CLB. AT APPROX 1000 FT, I REDUCED THE PWR TO CLB AND WAS ABOUT TO CALL FOR FLAPS 0 DEGS. I LOWERED THE NOSE SLIGHTLY AND IMMEDIATELY GOT 'MONITOR VERT SPD.' WITHIN 2 SECONDS I GOT THE 'CLB, XING, CLB' RA. I CONTINUED WITH A MAX CLB AND THE RA WENT AWAY ALMOST IMMEDIATELY. BECAUSE I WAS THE PF I DID NOT GET A GOOD LOOK AT WHERE THE ACFT WAS. THE CAPT FIGURED IT TO BE 400 FT. HE WAS NOT SURE IF IT WAS ABOVE OR BELOW AND HE THOUGHT THE RA WAS A 'CLB, XING, CLB' AND NOT A 'CLB, CLB, CLB.' I CAN'T RECALL FOR SURE. THE CAPT FIGURED THE ACFT WAS AT 1/4 MI OR LESS FROM THE TCASII PICTURE. DEP SAID IT WAS A HELI, OVER A SPORTING EVENT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THE PLT HAS HAD A TCASII RA SO SOON AFTER TKOF. HE DOES NOT THINK ATC SHOULD ALLOW ACFT OP SO CLOSE TO DEPARTING ACFT. HE STATED IT REALLY WAS A STARTLING, ADRENALINE PUMPING EVENT. HE SAID 'THANK GOD FOR TCASII.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.