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Attributes | |
ACN | 560132 |
Time | |
Date | 200209 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : las.airport |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl single value : 5500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon tower : las.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Beech 1900 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 175 flight time total : 15350 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 560132 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : far non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 3000 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error other |
Narrative:
While being vectored for visual approach to runway 19L, we encountered 2 TCASII RA's within about 5 mins of each other. The first was a relatively minor RA 'monitor vertical speed' as a BE1900 passed about 400 ft below us. We did not see the aircraft and ATC seemed slow to provide the initial vector to get us around the traffic. This occurred at about 8000 ft MSL. We were then cleared to 5100 ft and very shortly received a 'climb, climb' RA. At the same time, ATC told us to turn left and climb to 5500 ft. The TCASII vsi commanded 2000 FPM climb even as we passed 5500 ft. I continued the climb to 6000 ft and received the 'clear of conflict.' we were now high and close to the airport and cleared for the visual to runway 19L. We told approach that we needed to widen out to descend, but were restr due to nellis AFB traffic. We requested and got s-turns, then tower changed runway to runway 19R. There is no GS on either runway 19L or runway 19R. There are VASI's, but are only good close in. In addition, approach gave us a 'nonstandard' clearance for the kinso arrival, 'fly the airspds and airway, but don't descend.' and later, 'cleared for the kinso arrival, but don't go below 8000 ft.' not their best day.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POTENTIAL CONFLICTS, AMENDED CLRNCS AND RWY CHANGES PLAGUE A B757 CREW DURING THEIR KINSO 1 RNAV APCH INTO LAS, NV.
Narrative: WHILE BEING VECTORED FOR VISUAL APCH TO RWY 19L, WE ENCOUNTERED 2 TCASII RA'S WITHIN ABOUT 5 MINS OF EACH OTHER. THE FIRST WAS A RELATIVELY MINOR RA 'MONITOR VERT SPD' AS A BE1900 PASSED ABOUT 400 FT BELOW US. WE DID NOT SEE THE ACFT AND ATC SEEMED SLOW TO PROVIDE THE INITIAL VECTOR TO GET US AROUND THE TFC. THIS OCCURRED AT ABOUT 8000 FT MSL. WE WERE THEN CLRED TO 5100 FT AND VERY SHORTLY RECEIVED A 'CLB, CLB' RA. AT THE SAME TIME, ATC TOLD US TO TURN L AND CLB TO 5500 FT. THE TCASII VSI COMMANDED 2000 FPM CLB EVEN AS WE PASSED 5500 FT. I CONTINUED THE CLB TO 6000 FT AND RECEIVED THE 'CLR OF CONFLICT.' WE WERE NOW HIGH AND CLOSE TO THE ARPT AND CLRED FOR THE VISUAL TO RWY 19L. WE TOLD APCH THAT WE NEEDED TO WIDEN OUT TO DSND, BUT WERE RESTR DUE TO NELLIS AFB TFC. WE REQUESTED AND GOT S-TURNS, THEN TWR CHANGED RWY TO RWY 19R. THERE IS NO GS ON EITHER RWY 19L OR RWY 19R. THERE ARE VASI'S, BUT ARE ONLY GOOD CLOSE IN. IN ADDITION, APCH GAVE US A 'NONSTANDARD' CLRNC FOR THE KINSO ARR, 'FLY THE AIRSPDS AND AIRWAY, BUT DON'T DSND.' AND LATER, 'CLRED FOR THE KINSO ARR, BUT DON'T GO BELOW 8000 FT.' NOT THEIR BEST DAY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.