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Attributes | |
ACN | 562442 |
Time | |
Date | 200210 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : crw.airport |
State Reference | WV |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : crw.tower tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : taxi ground : takeoff roll ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 7900 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 562442 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Environmental Factor Chart Or Publication Airspace Structure Airport Company |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Narrative:
Departed crw with 1 mi visibility. There is an fdc NOTAM that requires a climb gradient for departures with this WX. I've had some training department people tell me that the NOTAM doesn't apply. I've had some tell me that company policy is that the NOTAM doesn't apply, but that the company is wrong. I've had some training department people tell me that the NOTAM does apply, but that we can comply with the gradient per our runway analysis. I have no idea who is right. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter was confused in that he did not realize that any airport NOTAM with regard to instrument departures and arrs would routinely apply to his operation per company operations manual. Therefore, it is the flight crew's duty to review their aircraft performance to assure compliance, as in this incident, wherein their aircraft probably exceeded the NOTAM gradient requirements.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: E120 CAPT QUESTIONS APPLICABILITY FOR HIS OP OF A CLB GRADIENT DEP NOTAM FOR CRW.
Narrative: DEPARTED CRW WITH 1 MI VISIBILITY. THERE IS AN FDC NOTAM THAT REQUIRES A CLB GRADIENT FOR DEPS WITH THIS WX. I'VE HAD SOME TRAINING DEPT PEOPLE TELL ME THAT THE NOTAM DOESN'T APPLY. I'VE HAD SOME TELL ME THAT COMPANY POLICY IS THAT THE NOTAM DOESN'T APPLY, BUT THAT THE COMPANY IS WRONG. I'VE HAD SOME TRAINING DEPT PEOPLE TELL ME THAT THE NOTAM DOES APPLY, BUT THAT WE CAN COMPLY WITH THE GRADIENT PER OUR RWY ANALYSIS. I HAVE NO IDEA WHO IS RIGHT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR WAS CONFUSED IN THAT HE DID NOT REALIZE THAT ANY ARPT NOTAM WITH REGARD TO INST DEPS AND ARRS WOULD ROUTINELY APPLY TO HIS OP PER COMPANY OPS MANUAL. THEREFORE, IT IS THE FLC'S DUTY TO REVIEW THEIR ACFT PERFORMANCE TO ASSURE COMPLIANCE, AS IN THIS INCIDENT, WHEREIN THEIR ACFT PROBABLY EXCEEDED THE NOTAM GRADIENT REQUIREMENTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.