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Attributes | |
ACN | 563788 |
Time | |
Date | 200210 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : poc.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon tower : poc.tower tracon : p31.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Learjet 55 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 1700 |
ASRS Report | 563788 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication FAA Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
During part 135 check ride, I realized that brackett (poc) ILS was approved for only a & B aircraft. In visual conditions, we accepted an ILS approach clearance to poc and shot the approach. ATC and tower were both aware of missed approach only desired by flight crew. We are uncertain if any rules were broken. There were no conflicts or questions by ATC or tower. I am requesting clarification from local FSDO. Can a category C aircraft accept clearance to an approach when only a & B aircraft have landing minimums? Do visual conditions change approach criteria? We did not advise airport in sight and requested visual approach. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter has not received direction or interpretation from FAA or company. Reporter questions whether approach is authority/authorized to issue the approach clearance for his type aircraft, or if issued an approach clearance, WX tower is authority/authorized to issue a landing clearance. Supplemental callback conversation revealed the following information: FSDO inspector familiar with poc operations advised that category C and category D landing minima is 'not applicable' because of restr tower operating hours, runway length restrs, and ILS component interference, caused by a local public activity -- poc drag strip. Instead of publishing an ILS operating restr, the FAA decided to implement a 'not applicable' for category C and category D aircraft. The airport has had a few accidents with this category aircraft at this airport in the past.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LJ55 PIC, AFTER CONDUCTING AN ILS RWY 26L APCH TO POC ARPT, DISCOVERS THAT CATEGORY C AND CATEGORY D ACFT DO NOT HAVE PUBLISHED LNDG MINIMA. RPTR QUESTIONS IF THERE IS AN FAR VIOLATION.
Narrative: DURING PART 135 CHK RIDE, I REALIZED THAT BRACKETT (POC) ILS WAS APPROVED FOR ONLY A & B ACFT. IN VISUAL CONDITIONS, WE ACCEPTED AN ILS APCH CLRNC TO POC AND SHOT THE APCH. ATC AND TWR WERE BOTH AWARE OF MISSED APCH ONLY DESIRED BY FLC. WE ARE UNCERTAIN IF ANY RULES WERE BROKEN. THERE WERE NO CONFLICTS OR QUESTIONS BY ATC OR TWR. I AM REQUESTING CLARIFICATION FROM LCL FSDO. CAN A CATEGORY C ACFT ACCEPT CLRNC TO AN APCH WHEN ONLY A & B ACFT HAVE LNDG MINIMUMS? DO VISUAL CONDITIONS CHANGE APCH CRITERIA? WE DID NOT ADVISE ARPT IN SIGHT AND REQUESTED VISUAL APCH. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR HAS NOT RECEIVED DIRECTION OR INTERP FROM FAA OR COMPANY. RPTR QUESTIONS WHETHER APCH IS AUTH TO ISSUE THE APCH CLRNC FOR HIS TYPE ACFT, OR IF ISSUED AN APCH CLRNC, WX TWR IS AUTH TO ISSUE A LNDG CLRNC. SUPPLEMENTAL CALLBACK CONVERSATION REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: FSDO INSPECTOR FAMILIAR WITH POC OPS ADVISED THAT CATEGORY C AND CATEGORY D LNDG MINIMA IS 'NOT APPLICABLE' BECAUSE OF RESTR TWR OPERATING HRS, RWY LENGTH RESTRS, AND ILS COMPONENT INTERFERENCE, CAUSED BY A LCL PUBLIC ACTIVITY -- POC DRAG STRIP. INSTEAD OF PUBLISHING AN ILS OPERATING RESTR, THE FAA DECIDED TO IMPLEMENT A 'NOT APPLICABLE' FOR CATEGORY C AND CATEGORY D ACFT. THE ARPT HAS HAD A FEW ACCIDENTS WITH THIS CATEGORY ACFT AT THIS ARPT IN THE PAST.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.