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Attributes | |
ACN | 566596 |
Time | |
Date | 200211 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : las.airport |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl single value : 18000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Learjet 45 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 566596 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllerb other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance ATC Facility |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
ATIS advised that four runways were being used for arrs. In order to program our FMS for the procedure, we put in the runway we assumed we would get. However, when handed off to las approach, they issued a runway normally used for airliners. Before we could reprogram the FMS, we started on a heading for the wrong waypoint. Approach then issued us a heading. Ironically, our runway was then changed to the runway we originally assumed we would receive. FMS needs all the information for arrival procedures including the runway. Without the runway programmed, the procedure stops at the last common point.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CHANGE FROM THE PLANNED AND PROGRAMMED RWY FOR LAS VEGAS, NV RAISES THE WORKLOAD FOR A CPR JET CREW.
Narrative: ATIS ADVISED THAT FOUR RWYS WERE BEING USED FOR ARRS. IN ORDER TO PROGRAM OUR FMS FOR THE PROC, WE PUT IN THE RWY WE ASSUMED WE WOULD GET. HOWEVER, WHEN HANDED OFF TO LAS APCH, THEY ISSUED A RWY NORMALLY USED FOR AIRLINERS. BEFORE WE COULD REPROGRAM THE FMS, WE STARTED ON A HDG FOR THE WRONG WAYPOINT. APCH THEN ISSUED US A HDG. IRONICALLY, OUR RUNWAY WAS THEN CHANGED TO THE RUNWAY WE ORIGINALLY ASSUMED WE WOULD RECEIVE. FMS NEEDS ALL THE INFORMATION FOR ARR PROCS INCLUDING THE RWY. WITHOUT THE RUNWAY PROGRAMMED, THE PROC STOPS AT THE LAST COMMON POINT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.