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Attributes | |
ACN | 566652 |
Time | |
Date | 200211 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pdx.airport |
State Reference | OR |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | BAe 125 Series 800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : p80.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | King Air C90 E90 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 17400 flight time type : 2100 |
ASRS Report | 566652 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : 3 |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Environmental Factor ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
On vector for landing on runway 10L at pdx we were vectored through the final approach into oncoming king air traffic who was cleared for a visual approach to the parallel runways. We were not cleared for a visual and had to wait for 'chatter' to stop before we could question the controller on his intentions. We went through the final approach course, with all aircraft in sight. The controller failed to authorize a visual approach for us. The result was confusion on everyone's part. They do make mistakes, even though the controller claims he did clear us. We use a cockpit procedure of setting the altitude merger to pattern altitude (1500 above AGL) when we are cleared for a visual. We had not done this until after we questioned the controllers intentions.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A HS25 CREW IS VECTORED ACROSS THE LOC AT PDX RESULTING IN A CONFLICT WITH A KING AIR ON A VISUAL APCH TO THE PARALLEL RWY.
Narrative: ON VECTOR FOR LNDG ON RWY 10L AT PDX WE WERE VECTORED THROUGH THE FINAL APCH INTO ONCOMING KING AIR TFC WHO WAS CLRED FOR A VISUAL APCH TO THE PARALLEL RWYS. WE WERE NOT CLRED FOR A VISUAL AND HAD TO WAIT FOR 'CHATTER' TO STOP BEFORE WE COULD QUESTION THE CTLR ON HIS INTENTIONS. WE WENT THROUGH THE FINAL APCH COURSE, WITH ALL ACFT IN SIGHT. THE CTLR FAILED TO AUTHORIZE A VISUAL APCH FOR US. THE RESULT WAS CONFUSION ON EVERYONE'S PART. THEY DO MAKE MISTAKES, EVEN THOUGH THE CTLR CLAIMS HE DID CLR US. WE USE A COCKPIT PROC OF SETTING THE ALT MERGER TO PATTERN ALT (1500 ABOVE AGL) WHEN WE ARE CLRED FOR A VISUAL. WE HAD NOT DONE THIS UNTIL AFTER WE QUESTIONED THE CTLRS INTENTIONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.