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East-145 crew was intimidated by the air carrier chief pilot to operation a flight in forecast severe icing conditions. The flight encountered severe icing.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 567530 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200212 |
| Day | Wed |
| Place | |
| State Reference | NC |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 19000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Weather Elements | Ice Rain Snow Fog other |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid.artcc tracon : clt.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER&LR |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 2100 flight time type : 900 |
| ASRS Report | 567538 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : provided flight assist flight crew : diverted to another airport |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance Weather |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
En route from pit to gsp, we received an update from ZID that a SIGMET was now valid covering severe icing conditions directly over our destination, gsp. It reported severe icing below 5000 ft. Our company chief pilot told us that because no PIREP was made about severe icing conditions that the SIGMET would not affect us. Our general operating manual states flight into known severe icing is prohibited. We disagreed with the interpretation of our chief pilot, but he and flight control assured us he was right. We contacted center, gsp approach, and gsp tower to confirm current WX conditions at the airport, receive any more PIREP updates, and confirm the SIGMET was still valid. All PIREPS stated light to moderate icing for gsp. We decided to try the approach, and we encountered severe icing 3-4 mi out on the approach to runway 4. We executed a missed approach immediately and diverted to clt. I was the PNF from pit to gsp, and after we went missed, the captain dealt with radios, flight control, etc, and I flew the aircraft to charlotte. Our chief pilot tried to affect our decision to continue. He almost succeeded. I would like to see clear interps about airmets and sigmets being considered forecast WX.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: E-145 CREW WAS INTIMIDATED BY THE ACR CHIEF PLT TO OP A FLT IN FORECAST SEVERE ICING CONDITIONS. THE FLT ENCOUNTERED SEVERE ICING.
Narrative: ENRTE FROM PIT TO GSP, WE RECEIVED AN UPDATE FROM ZID THAT A SIGMET WAS NOW VALID COVERING SEVERE ICING CONDITIONS DIRECTLY OVER OUR DEST, GSP. IT RPTED SEVERE ICING BELOW 5000 FT. OUR COMPANY CHIEF PLT TOLD US THAT BECAUSE NO PIREP WAS MADE ABOUT SEVERE ICING CONDITIONS THAT THE SIGMET WOULD NOT AFFECT US. OUR GENERAL OPERATING MANUAL STATES FLT INTO KNOWN SEVERE ICING IS PROHIBITED. WE DISAGREED WITH THE INTERP OF OUR CHIEF PLT, BUT HE AND FLT CTL ASSURED US HE WAS RIGHT. WE CONTACTED CTR, GSP APCH, AND GSP TWR TO CONFIRM CURRENT WX CONDITIONS AT THE ARPT, RECEIVE ANY MORE PIREP UPDATES, AND CONFIRM THE SIGMET WAS STILL VALID. ALL PIREPS STATED LIGHT TO MODERATE ICING FOR GSP. WE DECIDED TO TRY THE APCH, AND WE ENCOUNTERED SEVERE ICING 3-4 MI OUT ON THE APCH TO RWY 4. WE EXECUTED A MISSED APCH IMMEDIATELY AND DIVERTED TO CLT. I WAS THE PNF FROM PIT TO GSP, AND AFTER WE WENT MISSED, THE CAPT DEALT WITH RADIOS, FLT CTL, ETC, AND I FLEW THE ACFT TO CHARLOTTE. OUR CHIEF PLT TRIED TO AFFECT OUR DECISION TO CONTINUE. HE ALMOST SUCCEEDED. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CLR INTERPS ABOUT AIRMETS AND SIGMETS BEING CONSIDERED FORECAST WX.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.