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Attributes | |
ACN | 567705 |
Time | |
Date | 200212 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : slc.airport |
State Reference | UT |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 7300 flight time type : 2044 |
ASRS Report | 567705 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other other : 4 |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Weather |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
During initial taxi to the runway, a flight attendant called the cockpit to ask if we were planning on deicing the aircraft prior to takeoff. She stated the passenger seated in seat xx observed some ice on the top surface of the wing. We coordinated with ground control to pull off the active taxiway and stop the aircraft. The captain sent me back to perform a visual inspection of the wings from inside the cabin. I confirmed there were thin, patchy areas of ice adhering to the top surface of both wings. I reported this to the captain, and we immediately coordinated to return to the deice area to have the ice removed. Prior to this, we were unaware of the need to deice the aircraft that day. The formation of ice on the top surface of the wings was a surprise since the outside air temperature was well above freezing, it was a partly sunny afternoon, and the aircraft had just flown in 2 hours prior. Also, there had been no precipitation at the airport in over 2 weeks! I remember thinking as I arrived at the aircraft what a nice day it was. The airport was not running a deicing operation for any other aircraft, and there was no way deicing would be required. I performed the exterior preflight inspection and did observe a very thin layer of ice on the bottom surface of the wings. However, at the top of the jetway stairs, I could see no indication of ice on the top surface of the wings. This is acceptable per the operations manual without deicing, as long as the wing tanks are not full of cold-soaked fuel. At that time, I did not realize that the aircraft had arrived with both wing tanks completely full of fuel. I assumed they had arrived low on fuel as they do following most flts. Just prior to pushback, we received the fuel slip and the weight and balance paperwork. By the time I analyzed the fuel slip, the significance of the wing tanks arriving full, resulting in possible cold-soaked fuel contacting the upper surface of the wings and freezing any condensation, did not occur to me. In retrospect, several things should have tipped me off to the need for deicing that day. First, seeing the thin layer of ice on the under side should have prompted a closer inspection of the top side of the wings from inside the cabin. Second, I should have comprehended the significance of an aircraft arriving with full wing fuel tanks when the outside air temperature is less than 60 degrees F. And finally, I shall never again make an assumption about the need for deicing before arriving at the aircraft, no matter how nice the WX is.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757-200. PAX CALLED TO THE FLT ATTENDANT'S ATTN, ICE FORMATION ADHERING TO THE UPPER WING SURFACE AT SLC.
Narrative: DURING INITIAL TAXI TO THE RWY, A FLT ATTENDANT CALLED THE COCKPIT TO ASK IF WE WERE PLANNING ON DEICING THE ACFT PRIOR TO TKOF. SHE STATED THE PAX SEATED IN SEAT XX OBSERVED SOME ICE ON THE TOP SURFACE OF THE WING. WE COORDINATED WITH GND CTL TO PULL OFF THE ACTIVE TXWY AND STOP THE ACFT. THE CAPT SENT ME BACK TO PERFORM A VISUAL INSPECTION OF THE WINGS FROM INSIDE THE CABIN. I CONFIRMED THERE WERE THIN, PATCHY AREAS OF ICE ADHERING TO THE TOP SURFACE OF BOTH WINGS. I RPTED THIS TO THE CAPT, AND WE IMMEDIATELY COORDINATED TO RETURN TO THE DEICE AREA TO HAVE THE ICE REMOVED. PRIOR TO THIS, WE WERE UNAWARE OF THE NEED TO DEICE THE ACFT THAT DAY. THE FORMATION OF ICE ON THE TOP SURFACE OF THE WINGS WAS A SURPRISE SINCE THE OUTSIDE AIR TEMP WAS WELL ABOVE FREEZING, IT WAS A PARTLY SUNNY AFTERNOON, AND THE ACFT HAD JUST FLOWN IN 2 HRS PRIOR. ALSO, THERE HAD BEEN NO PRECIP AT THE ARPT IN OVER 2 WKS! I REMEMBER THINKING AS I ARRIVED AT THE ACFT WHAT A NICE DAY IT WAS. THE ARPT WAS NOT RUNNING A DEICING OP FOR ANY OTHER ACFT, AND THERE WAS NO WAY DEICING WOULD BE REQUIRED. I PERFORMED THE EXTERIOR PREFLT INSPECTION AND DID OBSERVE A VERY THIN LAYER OF ICE ON THE BOTTOM SURFACE OF THE WINGS. HOWEVER, AT THE TOP OF THE JETWAY STAIRS, I COULD SEE NO INDICATION OF ICE ON THE TOP SURFACE OF THE WINGS. THIS IS ACCEPTABLE PER THE OPS MANUAL WITHOUT DEICING, AS LONG AS THE WING TANKS ARE NOT FULL OF COLD-SOAKED FUEL. AT THAT TIME, I DID NOT REALIZE THAT THE ACFT HAD ARRIVED WITH BOTH WING TANKS COMPLETELY FULL OF FUEL. I ASSUMED THEY HAD ARRIVED LOW ON FUEL AS THEY DO FOLLOWING MOST FLTS. JUST PRIOR TO PUSHBACK, WE RECEIVED THE FUEL SLIP AND THE WT AND BAL PAPERWORK. BY THE TIME I ANALYZED THE FUEL SLIP, THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE WING TANKS ARRIVING FULL, RESULTING IN POSSIBLE COLD-SOAKED FUEL CONTACTING THE UPPER SURFACE OF THE WINGS AND FREEZING ANY CONDENSATION, DID NOT OCCUR TO ME. IN RETROSPECT, SEVERAL THINGS SHOULD HAVE TIPPED ME OFF TO THE NEED FOR DEICING THAT DAY. FIRST, SEEING THE THIN LAYER OF ICE ON THE UNDER SIDE SHOULD HAVE PROMPTED A CLOSER INSPECTION OF THE TOP SIDE OF THE WINGS FROM INSIDE THE CABIN. SECOND, I SHOULD HAVE COMPREHENDED THE SIGNIFICANCE OF AN ACFT ARRIVING WITH FULL WING FUEL TANKS WHEN THE OUTSIDE AIR TEMP IS LESS THAN 60 DEGS F. AND FINALLY, I SHALL NEVER AGAIN MAKE AN ASSUMPTION ABOUT THE NEED FOR DEICING BEFORE ARRIVING AT THE ACFT, NO MATTER HOW NICE THE WX IS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.