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Attributes | |
ACN | 567723 |
Time | |
Date | 200212 |
Day | Wed |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 567723 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : person 1 |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft Chart Or Publication |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Situations | |
Publication | Op Manual |
Narrative:
Dealing with crew oxygen problems on the MD80. I agree that strict adherence to the procedures on page 170 system DC9 operating manual, will ensure flow to the crew oxygen mask. These procedures, however, do not check the pneumatic integrity of the system nor do they include steps to ensure that positive flow is delivered to the oxygen mask vent, which I have found defective on one occasion. A recommended manner in which to check for total integrity of the system is to don the mask, inhale and exhale to confirm flow, and then to place the emergency (normal) test mask control to the test mask position. Next, take a deep breath and hold while pressing on the oxygen mask vent to ensure flow. Release the vent to ensure flow stops. While still holding breath, ensure that the flow indicator is blank, ie, no flow. If flow persists, investigate. I have found 2 oxygen system that had significant leaks under positive pressure that would not have been discovered using current procedures. Aircraft #1 aug/xa/02 with a leak at the regulator. Aircraft #2 sep/xa/02 with a leak in the hose between the regulator and the side wall. Please consider these recommended changes and also consider checking our MD80 fleet by plugging the hole at the sidewall and applying positive pressure upstream of the plug. If flow stops, then good. If flow does not stop, then bad.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MD80 CAPT RPTS CREW OXYGEN TESTS IN OPERATING MANUAL DO NOT CHK FOR PNEUMATIC INTEGRITY OF THE SYS.
Narrative: DEALING WITH CREW OXYGEN PROBS ON THE MD80. I AGREE THAT STRICT ADHERENCE TO THE PROCS ON PAGE 170 SYS DC9 OPERATING MANUAL, WILL ENSURE FLOW TO THE CREW OXYGEN MASK. THESE PROCS, HOWEVER, DO NOT CHK THE PNEUMATIC INTEGRITY OF THE SYS NOR DO THEY INCLUDE STEPS TO ENSURE THAT POSITIVE FLOW IS DELIVERED TO THE OXYGEN MASK VENT, WHICH I HAVE FOUND DEFECTIVE ON ONE OCCASION. A RECOMMENDED MANNER IN WHICH TO CHK FOR TOTAL INTEGRITY OF THE SYS IS TO DON THE MASK, INHALE AND EXHALE TO CONFIRM FLOW, AND THEN TO PLACE THE EMER (NORMAL) TEST MASK CTL TO THE TEST MASK POS. NEXT, TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND HOLD WHILE PRESSING ON THE OXYGEN MASK VENT TO ENSURE FLOW. RELEASE THE VENT TO ENSURE FLOW STOPS. WHILE STILL HOLDING BREATH, ENSURE THAT THE FLOW INDICATOR IS BLANK, IE, NO FLOW. IF FLOW PERSISTS, INVESTIGATE. I HAVE FOUND 2 OXYGEN SYS THAT HAD SIGNIFICANT LEAKS UNDER POSITIVE PRESSURE THAT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DISCOVERED USING CURRENT PROCS. ACFT #1 AUG/XA/02 WITH A LEAK AT THE REGULATOR. ACFT #2 SEP/XA/02 WITH A LEAK IN THE HOSE BTWN THE REGULATOR AND THE SIDE WALL. PLEASE CONSIDER THESE RECOMMENDED CHANGES AND ALSO CONSIDER CHKING OUR MD80 FLEET BY PLUGGING THE HOLE AT THE SIDEWALL AND APPLYING POSITIVE PRESSURE UPSTREAM OF THE PLUG. IF FLOW STOPS, THEN GOOD. IF FLOW DOES NOT STOP, THEN BAD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.