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Attributes | |
ACN | 569378 |
Time | |
Date | 200212 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : hnl.vortac |
State Reference | HI |
Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : hnl.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : 141 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : hnl.tower |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 569378 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : 3 |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Airspace Structure |
Narrative:
Reporting aircraft was returning to honolulu (home base) from training at jrf at 2000 ft MSL in VMC conditions near sugar mill intersection, with a student pilot at the controls. Student was attempting to make initial transmission to honolulu approach control with ATIS information. Student's call was delayed by traffic congestion and 3 or more other aircraft in the immediate proximity. While in a level, left turn near sugar mill intersection, the cfii observed a light twin aircraft approaching sugar mill intersection, closing rapidly on aircraft X, head on. The cfii took command of the aircraft, took evasive action, and notified approach control of the near miss, and after arrival. Called the honolulu tower chief to discuss the incident. The tower chief appeared to concur with the cfii that the current procedures for VFR aircraft departing and arriving honolulu were difficult and made worse by a temporary flight restr still in effect at honolulu, and which forces arriving and departing aircraft into a very limited airspace. He was not encouraging about finding solutions. This type of conflict can be minimized by reopening the former traffic approachs through class B airspace overlying pearl harbor and western arrival patterns currently restr to acrs and us military aircraft, as intended after the temporary flight restrs were no longer imperative. Another proposed resolution might be allowed lower arriving GA aircraft returning from john rogers field (kalaeloa) to approach honolulu (phnl) low-level along shoreline, as currently done for military rotary wing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CFII CONDUCTING STUDENT TRAINING IN THE HNL AREA HAS A NMAC WITH A LIGHT TWIN NEAR A FIX THAT IS USED BY RETURNING ACFT MAKING INITIAL CALL TO APCH CTL.
Narrative: RPTING ACFT WAS RETURNING TO HONOLULU (HOME BASE) FROM TRAINING AT JRF AT 2000 FT MSL IN VMC CONDITIONS NEAR SUGAR MILL INTXN, WITH A STUDENT PLT AT THE CTLS. STUDENT WAS ATTEMPTING TO MAKE INITIAL XMISSION TO HONOLULU APCH CTL WITH ATIS INFO. STUDENT'S CALL WAS DELAYED BY TFC CONGESTION AND 3 OR MORE OTHER ACFT IN THE IMMEDIATE PROX. WHILE IN A LEVEL, L TURN NEAR SUGAR MILL INTXN, THE CFII OBSERVED A LIGHT TWIN ACFT APCHING SUGAR MILL INTXN, CLOSING RAPIDLY ON ACFT X, HEAD ON. THE CFII TOOK COMMAND OF THE ACFT, TOOK EVASIVE ACTION, AND NOTIFIED APCH CTL OF THE NEAR MISS, AND AFTER ARR. CALLED THE HONOLULU TWR CHIEF TO DISCUSS THE INCIDENT. THE TWR CHIEF APPEARED TO CONCUR WITH THE CFII THAT THE CURRENT PROCS FOR VFR ACFT DEPARTING AND ARRIVING HONOLULU WERE DIFFICULT AND MADE WORSE BY A TEMPORARY FLT RESTR STILL IN EFFECT AT HONOLULU, AND WHICH FORCES ARRIVING AND DEPARTING ACFT INTO A VERY LIMITED AIRSPACE. HE WAS NOT ENCOURAGING ABOUT FINDING SOLUTIONS. THIS TYPE OF CONFLICT CAN BE MINIMIZED BY REOPENING THE FORMER TFC APCHS THROUGH CLASS B AIRSPACE OVERLYING PEARL HARBOR AND WESTERN ARR PATTERNS CURRENTLY RESTR TO ACRS AND US MIL ACFT, AS INTENDED AFTER THE TEMPORARY FLT RESTRS WERE NO LONGER IMPERATIVE. ANOTHER PROPOSED RESOLUTION MIGHT BE ALLOWED LOWER ARRIVING GA ACFT RETURNING FROM JOHN ROGERS FIELD (KALAELOA) TO APCH HONOLULU (PHNL) LOW-LEVEL ALONG SHORELINE, AS CURRENTLY DONE FOR MIL ROTARY WING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.