37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 569450 |
Time | |
Date | 200212 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : czqx.airport |
State Reference | NF |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 27500 msl bound upper : 39000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : czqx.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A319 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 22 flight time total : 1700 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 569450 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude inflight encounter other non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : fuel temp indication other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited adverse environment |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance Weather ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Environmental Factor |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While at FL390, crew noted temperature at -70 degrees C (forecast to be -61 degrees C). Fuel tank temperatures were at -32 degrees C. Crew continuously monitored fuel tank temperatures. When fuel reached -33 degrees C, crew requested lower altitude and was cleared to FL370. Fuel temperature remained at -33 degrees C. Crew requested lower altitude and was told to stand by. (Note: fuel temperature was given to ATC for reason.) slight speed increases had no effect on fuel temperature. Frequency change was made to gander oceanic per request. Crew again requested lower altitude due to fuel temperatures. Crew advised to stand by. Fuel temperature went to -34 degrees C and fuel flow in #1 engine began fluctuating. Captain made decision to descend. Area was cleared visually and with TCASII. Captain advised gander of descent and aircraft was leveled at FL275 on planned course. During descent, gander was not responding to our radio calls (VHF) and information of our status was relayed through another aircraft on frequency. We established (VHF) communications with gander and advised them of our status. We were cleared to FL270 and the flight continued without incident. Due to colder than forecast temperatures, the request for lower altitudes perhaps should have been conveyed sooner. However, neither the captain nor myself had experienced fuel temperatures this low along this route of flight during previous trips.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WITH FUEL TEMP GOING BELOW THE MINIMUM LIMIT, A WARMER ALT IS REQUESTED. AFTER A LONG DELAY WITH FUEL TEMP CONTINUING TO DECREASE, DSCNT IS BEGUN WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: WHILE AT FL390, CREW NOTED TEMP AT -70 DEGS C (FORECAST TO BE -61 DEGS C). FUEL TANK TEMPS WERE AT -32 DEGS C. CREW CONTINUOUSLY MONITORED FUEL TANK TEMPS. WHEN FUEL REACHED -33 DEGS C, CREW REQUESTED LOWER ALT AND WAS CLRED TO FL370. FUEL TEMP REMAINED AT -33 DEGS C. CREW REQUESTED LOWER ALT AND WAS TOLD TO STAND BY. (NOTE: FUEL TEMP WAS GIVEN TO ATC FOR REASON.) SLIGHT SPD INCREASES HAD NO EFFECT ON FUEL TEMP. FREQ CHANGE WAS MADE TO GANDER OCEANIC PER REQUEST. CREW AGAIN REQUESTED LOWER ALT DUE TO FUEL TEMPS. CREW ADVISED TO STAND BY. FUEL TEMP WENT TO -34 DEGS C AND FUEL FLOW IN #1 ENG BEGAN FLUCTUATING. CAPT MADE DECISION TO DSND. AREA WAS CLRED VISUALLY AND WITH TCASII. CAPT ADVISED GANDER OF DSCNT AND ACFT WAS LEVELED AT FL275 ON PLANNED COURSE. DURING DSCNT, GANDER WAS NOT RESPONDING TO OUR RADIO CALLS (VHF) AND INFO OF OUR STATUS WAS RELAYED THROUGH ANOTHER ACFT ON FREQ. WE ESTABLISHED (VHF) COMS WITH GANDER AND ADVISED THEM OF OUR STATUS. WE WERE CLRED TO FL270 AND THE FLT CONTINUED WITHOUT INCIDENT. DUE TO COLDER THAN FORECAST TEMPS, THE REQUEST FOR LOWER ALTS PERHAPS SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONVEYED SOONER. HOWEVER, NEITHER THE CAPT NOR MYSELF HAD EXPERIENCED FUEL TEMPS THIS LOW ALONG THIS RTE OF FLT DURING PREVIOUS TRIPS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.