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Attributes | |
ACN | 570489 |
Time | |
Date | 200212 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cdw.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl single value : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 1100 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 570489 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
I was transitioning teb at 1500 ft wbound. When they terminated, I called cdw tower advising '7 mi east inbound with ATIS said 'enter right downwind for runway 4.' exactly what I expected. As I flew it, controller questions 'my number, say position.' reply '2/3 of the way down the right downwind runway 4.' he clears me to land. I turn base, then final. Controller says (excitedly) 'who is that on final?' reply 'my n-number, final runway 4.' controller says 'if I had known you were coming from the right side, I would not have cleared you!' this is not something a controller should say -- it's his job to know what he's doing, and where I am -- he's the one who directed me there.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR CLAIMS THE CDW LCL CTLR BECAME EXCITED AND SURPRISED TO FIND HIM ON FINAL AFTER HE HAD FOLLOWED THE CTLR'S INSTRUCTIONS AND WAS CLRED TO LAND.
Narrative: I WAS TRANSITIONING TEB AT 1500 FT WBOUND. WHEN THEY TERMINATED, I CALLED CDW TWR ADVISING '7 MI E INBOUND WITH ATIS SAID 'ENTER R DOWNWIND FOR RWY 4.' EXACTLY WHAT I EXPECTED. AS I FLEW IT, CTLR QUESTIONS 'MY NUMBER, SAY POS.' REPLY '2/3 OF THE WAY DOWN THE R DOWNWIND RWY 4.' HE CLRS ME TO LAND. I TURN BASE, THEN FINAL. CTLR SAYS (EXCITEDLY) 'WHO IS THAT ON FINAL?' REPLY 'MY N-NUMBER, FINAL RWY 4.' CTLR SAYS 'IF I HAD KNOWN YOU WERE COMING FROM THE R SIDE, I WOULD NOT HAVE CLRED YOU!' THIS IS NOT SOMETHING A CTLR SHOULD SAY -- IT'S HIS JOB TO KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING, AND WHERE I AM -- HE'S THE ONE WHO DIRECTED ME THERE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.