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Attributes | |
ACN | 570567 |
Time | |
Date | 200301 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : dejay |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival star : kayoh |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 570567 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar/mode c other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Level at 14000 ft at bands intersection, we were cleared the kayoh arrival by socal approach. We started a descent to cross dejay at 8000 ft as published. Passing 11000 ft, the controller asked us what altitude he had cleared us to and said he was surprised that we had descended. I took his clearance of the arrival to mean that we were cleared to descend to make all of the published altitude restrs. He apparently did not.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 CREW INBOUND TO SNA IS CLRED ON THE KAYOH ARR AND STARTS DSCNT WITHOUT APPROVAL.
Narrative: LEVEL AT 14000 FT AT BANDS INTXN, WE WERE CLRED THE KAYOH ARR BY SOCAL APCH. WE STARTED A DSCNT TO CROSS DEJAY AT 8000 FT AS PUBLISHED. PASSING 11000 FT, THE CTLR ASKED US WHAT ALT HE HAD CLRED US TO AND SAID HE WAS SURPRISED THAT WE HAD DSNDED. I TOOK HIS CLRNC OF THE ARR TO MEAN THAT WE WERE CLRED TO DSND TO MAKE ALL OF THE PUBLISHED ALT RESTRS. HE APPARENTLY DID NOT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.