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Attributes | |
ACN | 571883 |
Time | |
Date | 200301 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : vny.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 4500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : vny.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Chancellor 414A & C414 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : canoga8.gmn |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 571883 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Chart Or Publication |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I requested and was issued SID (CANOGA8.gmn) on takeoff. Local controller advised 'start left turn to fly the SID' or similar. I checked in with socal and was issued barometer. No vectors given. After flying 255 degree heading to intercept gmn radial, no further instructions were given, so I started right turn to 'fly the SID'. ATC complained, turned me back. 1) this is a radar SID, so ATC should have issued vectors. 2) I probably should have challenged at crossing, not turned. Confusion, because of local controller 'fly SID,' which I interpreted as like 'own navigation' and lack of vectors from socal.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: VNY C414 DEP MAKES INCORRECT TURN ON DEP PROC.
Narrative: I REQUESTED AND WAS ISSUED SID (CANOGA8.GMN) ON TKOF. LCL CTLR ADVISED 'START L TURN TO FLY THE SID' OR SIMILAR. I CHKED IN WITH SOCAL AND WAS ISSUED BAROMETER. NO VECTORS GIVEN. AFTER FLYING 255 DEG HDG TO INTERCEPT GMN RADIAL, NO FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS WERE GIVEN, SO I STARTED R TURN TO 'FLY THE SID'. ATC COMPLAINED, TURNED ME BACK. 1) THIS IS A RADAR SID, SO ATC SHOULD HAVE ISSUED VECTORS. 2) I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE CHALLENGED AT XING, NOT TURNED. CONFUSION, BECAUSE OF LCL CTLR 'FLY SID,' WHICH I INTERPED AS LIKE 'OWN NAV' AND LACK OF VECTORS FROM SOCAL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.