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Attributes | |
ACN | 572018 |
Time | |
Date | 200301 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : las.vortac |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon |
Operator | Other |
Make Model Name | Learjet 36 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 572018 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We departed ZZZ, en route to las. We decided that we would non-stop because the winds were very high aloft. Roughly 200 mi out, las approach asked us to cross a fix that was 120 mi out at 12000 ft. We explained to las approach that we would be fuel critical if we would have to descend. Approach control asked if we wanted to declare an emergency. We said no. The approach controller asked if we wanted runway 1 which would be a straight in final. We were cleared to descend and maintain 13000 ft. We were lined up with runway 1 when we realized that we had busted the altitude and were given an immediate right turn to 090 degrees. I think that we both were paying attention to landing as soon as possible on runway 1 that we both missed the altitude. Afterwards, instead of being vectored for runway 1, we were sent out to runway 25R. I think that if we weren't expecting to land on runway 1 this wouldn't have happened. It was a good lesson on fixating on one problem and not maintaining situational awareness. I also believe stress and fatigue of 2 oceanic xings in 2 days did not help.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LJ36 CREW HAD AN ALTDEV ON DSCNT INTO LAS.
Narrative: WE DEPARTED ZZZ, ENRTE TO LAS. WE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD NON-STOP BECAUSE THE WINDS WERE VERY HIGH ALOFT. ROUGHLY 200 MI OUT, LAS APCH ASKED US TO CROSS A FIX THAT WAS 120 MI OUT AT 12000 FT. WE EXPLAINED TO LAS APCH THAT WE WOULD BE FUEL CRITICAL IF WE WOULD HAVE TO DSND. APCH CTL ASKED IF WE WANTED TO DECLARE AN EMER. WE SAID NO. THE APCH CTLR ASKED IF WE WANTED RWY 1 WHICH WOULD BE A STRAIGHT IN FINAL. WE WERE CLRED TO DSND AND MAINTAIN 13000 FT. WE WERE LINED UP WITH RWY 1 WHEN WE REALIZED THAT WE HAD BUSTED THE ALT AND WERE GIVEN AN IMMEDIATE R TURN TO 090 DEGS. I THINK THAT WE BOTH WERE PAYING ATTN TO LNDG ASAP ON RWY 1 THAT WE BOTH MISSED THE ALT. AFTERWARDS, INSTEAD OF BEING VECTORED FOR RWY 1, WE WERE SENT OUT TO RWY 25R. I THINK THAT IF WE WEREN'T EXPECTING TO LAND ON RWY 1 THIS WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED. IT WAS A GOOD LESSON ON FIXATING ON ONE PROB AND NOT MAINTAINING SITUATIONAL AWARENESS. I ALSO BELIEVE STRESS AND FATIGUE OF 2 OCEANIC XINGS IN 2 DAYS DID NOT HELP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.