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Attributes | |
ACN | 572587 |
Time | |
Date | 200302 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : skebr |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl single value : 13000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : skebr |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 14000 |
ASRS Report | 572587 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Deviation from published arrival procedure. The skebr RNAV 2 arrival was programmed into the FMC while at the gate in lax. Runway 25L was entered while airborne, after passing misen, and fixes verified on the legs page. After passing skebr, ATC issued a heading of 340 degrees, and I looked down at the box to see the airplane flying skebr direct shand. It had dropped kepec, ipumy, povoc, and kimme. ATC stated that there was not a problem, but asked where we were headed after skebr. He informed us that 8 other company aircraft had done the same thing that same day, and asked me to call TRACON upon arrival. On the phone with the las TRACON supervisor, I was told that we were number 9 in a string of company deviations that day alone. No other carriers have had the problem. The supervisor had spoken with several of our capts that day and felt that the problem occurred when the FMC was programmed with the arrival runway while airborne. If programmed on the ground before departure, the box did not drop any fixes. No pilot's discretion were filed, but I was asked to pass the information on to the company. Although I seem to remember confirming the fixes after I programmed in the arrival runway, apparently I did not.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A COURSE DEV ON THE SKEBR RNAV 2 ARR TO LAS, NV.
Narrative: DEV FROM PUBLISHED ARR PROC. THE SKEBR RNAV 2 ARR WAS PROGRAMMED INTO THE FMC WHILE AT THE GATE IN LAX. RWY 25L WAS ENTERED WHILE AIRBORNE, AFTER PASSING MISEN, AND FIXES VERIFIED ON THE LEGS PAGE. AFTER PASSING SKEBR, ATC ISSUED A HDG OF 340 DEGS, AND I LOOKED DOWN AT THE BOX TO SEE THE AIRPLANE FLYING SKEBR DIRECT SHAND. IT HAD DROPPED KEPEC, IPUMY, POVOC, AND KIMME. ATC STATED THAT THERE WAS NOT A PROB, BUT ASKED WHERE WE WERE HEADED AFTER SKEBR. HE INFORMED US THAT 8 OTHER COMPANY ACFT HAD DONE THE SAME THING THAT SAME DAY, AND ASKED ME TO CALL TRACON UPON ARR. ON THE PHONE WITH THE LAS TRACON SUPVR, I WAS TOLD THAT WE WERE NUMBER 9 IN A STRING OF COMPANY DEVS THAT DAY ALONE. NO OTHER CARRIERS HAVE HAD THE PROB. THE SUPVR HAD SPOKEN WITH SEVERAL OF OUR CAPTS THAT DAY AND FELT THAT THE PROB OCCURRED WHEN THE FMC WAS PROGRAMMED WITH THE ARR RWY WHILE AIRBORNE. IF PROGRAMMED ON THE GND BEFORE DEP, THE BOX DID NOT DROP ANY FIXES. NO PLT'S DISCRETION WERE FILED, BUT I WAS ASKED TO PASS THE INFO ON TO THE COMPANY. ALTHOUGH I SEEM TO REMEMBER CONFIRMING THE FIXES AFTER I PROGRAMMED IN THE ARR RWY, APPARENTLY I DID NOT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.