Narrative:

Prior to entering onto runway, the dvt tower asked for destination and altitude. Response: sat via elp 11500. Tower instructed, 'cleared for takeoff runway 7R.' departed runway 7R approximately xa:00 pm. Upon liftoff, was directed right turn out. (Dvt stops working me at this point). I soon realize this as a potential problem, and initiate a left turn to proceed eastbound. I then tuned scottsdale (sdl). Hearing the tower and traffic with small breaks, I increased my rate of climb to clear the top of their airspace (sdl 4000 ft). Sdl tower called and ask if I was on frequency. I responded, 'aircraft on frequency.' the tower person proceeded to explain that I had entered their airspace without radio contact, also to phone the tower. The remaining flight to sat was non-eventful. After landing, I called sdl and he explained to me that I had entered his airspace at 3000 ft and had exited at 3900 ft within 1 mi of the departure end of runway 3. He also explained that this is happening way to often and does not care what my reason or what it takes to stay out of his airspace. I have learned from the experience and recommend the dvt and sdl tower controllers need to come up with a method to eliminate the confusion. I suggest dvt direct eastbound traffic to proceed on a 080 degree heading, remain clear of sdl airspace and monitor sdl 119.9. By dvt directing pilots on an eastbound flight for a right turn out, induces several potential problems. Understand, most pilots would prefer to be perfect and adhere to safety. If I am guilty as charged, it is not with intent. I consider myself a very cautious and prudent pilot. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter suggested additional resolutions: that dvt FBO's provide detailed area ingress/egress procedures and alert pilots of local airspace requirements, development of VFR holding point west of sdl where pilots requesting a class B clearance can hold until they receive the clearance, change the top of sdl's class D to 3500 to allow pilots to fly above sdl without requiring the pilot to obtain a clearance when proceeding to or from dvt, require pilot requesting a class B clearance to obtain a class B transponder code prior to departure from dvt or sdl, require dvt to have all eastbound/southbound pilots call sdl for class D clearance authorization.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: EXITING DVT CLASS D, C210 PLT ENTERS SDL CLASS D WITHOUT A CLRNC WHILE ATTEMPTING TO AVOID SDL IN TRANSITION TO P50 FOR A CLASS B CLRNC.

Narrative: PRIOR TO ENTERING ONTO RWY, THE DVT TWR ASKED FOR DESTINATION AND ALT. RESPONSE: SAT VIA ELP 11500. TWR INSTRUCTED, 'CLEARED FOR TKOF RWY 7R.' DEPARTED RWY 7R APPROX XA:00 PM. UPON LIFTOFF, WAS DIRECTED R TURN OUT. (DVT STOPS WORKING ME AT THIS POINT). I SOON REALIZE THIS AS A POTENTIAL PROB, AND INITIATE A L TURN TO PROCEED EBND. I THEN TUNED SCOTTSDALE (SDL). HEARING THE TWR AND TFC WITH SMALL BREAKS, I INCREASED MY RATE OF CLB TO CLR THE TOP OF THEIR AIRSPACE (SDL 4000 FT). SDL TWR CALLED AND ASK IF I WAS ON FREQ. I RESPONDED, 'ACFT ON FREQ.' THE TWR PERSON PROCEEDED TO EXPLAIN THAT I HAD ENTERED THEIR AIRSPACE WITHOUT RADIO CONTACT, ALSO TO PHONE THE TWR. THE REMAINING FLT TO SAT WAS NON-EVENTFUL. AFTER LNDG, I CALLED SDL AND HE EXPLAINED TO ME THAT I HAD ENTERED HIS AIRSPACE AT 3000 FT AND HAD EXITED AT 3900 FT WITHIN 1 MI OF THE DEP END OF RWY 3. HE ALSO EXPLAINED THAT THIS IS HAPPENING WAY TO OFTEN AND DOES NOT CARE WHAT MY REASON OR WHAT IT TAKES TO STAY OUT OF HIS AIRSPACE. I HAVE LEARNED FROM THE EXPERIENCE AND RECOMMEND THE DVT AND SDL TWR CTLRS NEED TO COME UP WITH A METHOD TO ELIMINATE THE CONFUSION. I SUGGEST DVT DIRECT EBND TFC TO PROCEED ON A 080 DEG HEADING, REMAIN CLR OF SDL AIRSPACE AND MONITOR SDL 119.9. BY DVT DIRECTING PLTS ON AN EBND FLT FOR A R TURN OUT, INDUCES SEVERAL POTENTIAL PROBS. UNDERSTAND, MOST PLTS WOULD PREFER TO BE PERFECT AND ADHERE TO SAFETY. IF I AM GUILTY AS CHARGED, IT IS NOT WITH INTENT. I CONSIDER MYSELF A VERY CAUTIOUS AND PRUDENT PLT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR SUGGESTED ADDITIONAL RESOLUTIONS: THAT DVT FBO'S PROVIDE DETAILED AREA INGRESS/EGRESS PROCS AND ALERT PLTS OF LCL AIRSPACE REQUIREMENTS, DEVELOPMENT OF VFR HOLDING POINT W OF SDL WHERE PLTS REQUESTING A CLASS B CLRNC CAN HOLD UNTIL THEY RECEIVE THE CLRNC, CHANGE THE TOP OF SDL'S CLASS D TO 3500 TO ALLOW PLTS TO FLY ABOVE SDL WITHOUT REQUIRING THE PLT TO OBTAIN A CLRNC WHEN PROCEEDING TO OR FROM DVT, REQUIRE PLT REQUESTING A CLASS B CLRNC TO OBTAIN A CLASS B TRANSPONDER CODE PRIOR TO DEP FROM DVT OR SDL, REQUIRE DVT TO HAVE ALL EBND/SBND PLTS CALL SDL FOR CLASS D CLRNC AUTHORIZATION.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.