37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 575641 |
Time | |
Date | 200302 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tncm.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Turbulence |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | BAe 125 Series 800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 4850 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 575641 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : main air valve light on. other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : 3 |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : diverted to another airport flight crew : landed as precaution other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We departed tncm with 4 passenger en route to kilm. Climbing through 11000 ft, the passenger reported 'smoke' in the area of the baggage compartment, which is located directly aft of the flight deck on the right side. I turned around to check and noticed the 'smoke,' (which turned out to be mist/condensation from our loss of pressurization). When I turned back around to check the indications in the cockpit, both main air valve lights (air bleeds) were illuminated, the cabin altitude horn began sounding, and the cabin rate of climb indicator and cabin altitude were increasing rapidly. Unaware of the exact source of the problem, we elected to make an immediate turn to tncm. I then notified ATC that we needed to return to tncm. We started a descending right turn back to tncm. ATC asked us to maintain 9000 ft and make a 360 degree turn. We complied with the turn, but had already descended through 9000 ft and informed ATC that we had done so. I then asked for priority due to the pressurization problem, but did not declare an emergency. I informed the passenger that we were returning to tncm. Upon being cleared to land on runway 9 at tncm, we made an uneventful landing. After landing, the tower controller questioned the nature of our problem. I replied that we had a loss of pressurization. He made a comment about maintaining 9000 ft. When I told him I didn't understand the reason/nature of his question, he made no response to my query and cleared us to taxi to the ramp. Reflecting on the situation, I understand his question. When he asked us to maintain 9000 ft, which isn't an unreasonable request with a pressurization problem, he didn't know that along with the loss of pressurization, we thought we might have had smoke/fire and wanted to land as soon as possible. Driving my decisions was the idea that it is better to be cautious and land the airplane safely. The thought of fire initially came from the passenger reporting 'smoke.' a factor in this situation was communications. It is difficult to communication something you are unsure about. I wasn't convinced that we had a smoke/fire situation, but wanted to land quickly, because of the possibility. Problem was caused by a failed squat switch.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: H25B CREW WAS UNABLE TO PRESSURIZE THE ACFT BECAUSE AN AIR/GND SENSING SWITCH FAILED IN THE GND POS.
Narrative: WE DEPARTED TNCM WITH 4 PAX ENRTE TO KILM. CLBING THROUGH 11000 FT, THE PAX RPTED 'SMOKE' IN THE AREA OF THE BAGGAGE COMPARTMENT, WHICH IS LOCATED DIRECTLY AFT OF THE FLT DECK ON THE R SIDE. I TURNED AROUND TO CHK AND NOTICED THE 'SMOKE,' (WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE MIST/CONDENSATION FROM OUR LOSS OF PRESSURIZATION). WHEN I TURNED BACK AROUND TO CHK THE INDICATIONS IN THE COCKPIT, BOTH MAIN AIR VALVE LIGHTS (AIR BLEEDS) WERE ILLUMINATED, THE CABIN ALT HORN BEGAN SOUNDING, AND THE CABIN RATE OF CLB INDICATOR AND CABIN ALT WERE INCREASING RAPIDLY. UNAWARE OF THE EXACT SOURCE OF THE PROB, WE ELECTED TO MAKE AN IMMEDIATE TURN TO TNCM. I THEN NOTIFIED ATC THAT WE NEEDED TO RETURN TO TNCM. WE STARTED A DSNDING R TURN BACK TO TNCM. ATC ASKED US TO MAINTAIN 9000 FT AND MAKE A 360 DEG TURN. WE COMPLIED WITH THE TURN, BUT HAD ALREADY DSNDED THROUGH 9000 FT AND INFORMED ATC THAT WE HAD DONE SO. I THEN ASKED FOR PRIORITY DUE TO THE PRESSURIZATION PROB, BUT DID NOT DECLARE AN EMER. I INFORMED THE PAX THAT WE WERE RETURNING TO TNCM. UPON BEING CLRED TO LAND ON RWY 9 AT TNCM, WE MADE AN UNEVENTFUL LNDG. AFTER LNDG, THE TWR CTLR QUESTIONED THE NATURE OF OUR PROB. I REPLIED THAT WE HAD A LOSS OF PRESSURIZATION. HE MADE A COMMENT ABOUT MAINTAINING 9000 FT. WHEN I TOLD HIM I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE REASON/NATURE OF HIS QUESTION, HE MADE NO RESPONSE TO MY QUERY AND CLRED US TO TAXI TO THE RAMP. REFLECTING ON THE SIT, I UNDERSTAND HIS QUESTION. WHEN HE ASKED US TO MAINTAIN 9000 FT, WHICH ISN'T AN UNREASONABLE REQUEST WITH A PRESSURIZATION PROB, HE DIDN'T KNOW THAT ALONG WITH THE LOSS OF PRESSURIZATION, WE THOUGHT WE MIGHT HAVE HAD SMOKE/FIRE AND WANTED TO LAND ASAP. DRIVING MY DECISIONS WAS THE IDEA THAT IT IS BETTER TO BE CAUTIOUS AND LAND THE AIRPLANE SAFELY. THE THOUGHT OF FIRE INITIALLY CAME FROM THE PAX RPTING 'SMOKE.' A FACTOR IN THIS SIT WAS COMS. IT IS DIFFICULT TO COM SOMETHING YOU ARE UNSURE ABOUT. I WASN'T CONVINCED THAT WE HAD A SMOKE/FIRE SIT, BUT WANTED TO LAND QUICKLY, BECAUSE OF THE POSSIBILITY. PROB WAS CAUSED BY A FAILED SQUAT SWITCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.