Confusion after takeoff from las vegas when the crew flies one departure and ATC expects them to be ...

Attributes
ACN	577389
Time
Date	200303
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : las.airport
State Reference	NV
Altitude	msl single value : 4000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : l30.tracon tower : syr.tower
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Falcon 2000
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Navigation In Use	other
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff climbout : initial
Route In Use	departure other departure sid : las vegas
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 6600 flight time type : 265
ASRS Report	577389
Person 2
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 2500
ASRS Report	577608
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other controllerb
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	Ambiguous

Narrative:

After departure, controller asked us if we were on the RNAV departure. We immediately said 'no, the las vegas one vector.' she said we should be on RNAV and gave us heading to intercept. There was no conflict. I believe this was caused by not double-checking the clearance. It would help to verify the departure with the tower or ground controller before taxi. I have seen this at other airports with high use of RNAV departures and arrs. Supplemental information from acn 577608: in future I will always confirm departure clearance before departing. Our pre-departure clearance stated cleared as filed. We had filed the las vegas one. However the departure had been changed to RNAV and was not caught by us.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CONFUSION AFTER TKOF FROM LAS VEGAS WHEN THE CREW FLIES ONE DEP AND ATC EXPECTS THEM TO BE FLYING ANOTHER.

Narrative: AFTER DEP, CTLR ASKED US IF WE WERE ON THE RNAV DEP. WE IMMEDIATELY SAID 'NO, THE LAS VEGAS ONE VECTOR.' SHE SAID WE SHOULD BE ON RNAV AND GAVE US HEADING TO INTERCEPT. THERE WAS NO CONFLICT. I BELIEVE THIS WAS CAUSED BY NOT DOUBLE-CHKING THE CLRNC. IT WOULD HELP TO VERIFY THE DEP WITH THE TWR OR GND CTLR BEFORE TAXI. I HAVE SEEN THIS AT OTHER ARPTS WITH HIGH USE OF RNAV DEPS AND ARRS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 577608: IN FUTURE I WILL ALWAYS CONFIRM DEP CLRNC BEFORE DEPARTING. OUR PRE-DEP CLRNC STATED CLRED AS FILED. WE HAD FILED THE LAS VEGAS ONE. HOWEVER THE DEP HAD BEEN CHANGED TO RNAV AND WAS NOT CAUGHT BY US.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Confusion after takeoff from las vegas when the crew flies one departure and ATC expects them to be flying another.