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A VFR departing C172 instrument pilot and student experience an unauthorized tfr penetration of disneyworld tfr at 2100 ft, 15 NM southwest of orl, fl.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 578432 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200304 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : orl.vortac |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl single value : 2100 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : orl.tower tower : las.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | PA-32 Cherokee Six/Lance/Saratoga |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 07 other vortac |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure : vfr |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 30000 flight time type : 10000 |
| ASRS Report | 578432 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After flying from spg to orl, I picked up a student pilot and left orl to return to spg. My low time student was following the runway 07 localizer outbound after a runway 25 departure, I showed him 'herny' NDB and the meaning of the (reverse sensing) localizer 07 indication, and I thought we were adequately on the outbound localizer. Apparently, we strayed slightly southward to intersect the disneyworld tfr (3 NM radius 282445 north/0813420W) at about 2100 ft AGL climbing on-course to spg. (Orl tower never gave us either warning or handoff to orl departure control, but we recognize it is our responsibility not to intrude in the tfr). Note: I have made this trip at least two dozen times since 09/2002 and am familiar with the area. I have had no previous tfr violations. Corrective action: greater care in approaching or departure orl in IMC or VMC.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A VFR DEPARTING C172 INSTR PLT AND STUDENT EXPERIENCE AN UNAUTH TFR PENETRATION OF DISNEYWORLD TFR AT 2100 FT, 15 NM SW OF ORL, FL.
Narrative: AFTER FLYING FROM SPG TO ORL, I PICKED UP A STUDENT PLT AND LEFT ORL TO RETURN TO SPG. MY LOW TIME STUDENT WAS FOLLOWING THE RWY 07 LOC OUTBOUND AFTER A RWY 25 DEP, I SHOWED HIM 'HERNY' NDB AND THE MEANING OF THE (REVERSE SENSING) LOC 07 INDICATION, AND I THOUGHT WE WERE ADEQUATELY ON THE OUTBOUND LOC. APPARENTLY, WE STRAYED SLIGHTLY SOUTHWARD TO INTERSECT THE DISNEYWORLD TFR (3 NM RADIUS 282445 N/0813420W) AT ABOUT 2100 FT AGL CLBING ON-COURSE TO SPG. (ORL TOWER NEVER GAVE US EITHER WARNING OR HANDOFF TO ORL DEP CTL, BUT WE RECOGNIZE IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY NOT TO INTRUDE IN THE TFR). NOTE: I HAVE MADE THIS TRIP AT LEAST TWO DOZEN TIMES SINCE 09/2002 AND AM FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA. I HAVE HAD NO PREVIOUS TFR VIOLATIONS. CORRECTIVE ACTION: GREATER CARE IN APCHING OR DEP ORL IN IMC OR VMC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.