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Attributes | |
ACN | 581723 |
Time | |
Date | 200305 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tyr.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 3200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ggg.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 1850 flight time type : 650 |
ASRS Report | 581723 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot inflight encounter : weather non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On may/fri/03, a student pilot and I (I am a certified flight instructor) departed at local for an instrument training flight. The student was at the controls during the takeoff. I requested a clearance for IFR to VFR on top. After takeoff we were cleared to fly heading 180 degrees and maintain 3000 ft. The student remained at the controls for the climb into the clouds. The cloud bases were 1600 ft and the tops were approximately 3200 ft. As we approached 3000 ft, the clouds began to thin and we started to break out. While still ascending the student pilot began to show signs of spatial disorientation due to the passing patches of clouds and blue sky. I was carefully watching the student pilot, the attitude indicator, as well as the heading indicator for indications of changes in bank angle due to spatial disorientation. Consistent with standard practice for flight instruction, I decided to give the student pilot a brief chance to use the instruments to work through the disorientation. During this brief time period we were contacted by approach and asked what we were doing and if we had altimeter problems. The student pilot keyed the microphone and replied that we did not have altimeter problems, but failed to start an altitude correction. Again approach called and asked if we understood our leveloff altitude and reminded me that I had read back the clearance. During these communications, I immediately took control and reported to approach that we were descending from 3200 ft to 3000 ft. At 3000 ft we were back in the cloud tops and the student was unable to resume flying due to his continued spatial disorientation. The student did not ask for control, nor did I give it back to him until we were VFR on top.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA28 STUDENT PLT AND INSTRUCTOR EXCEED ASSIGNED ALT DUE TO STUDENT'S SPATIAL DISORIENTATION.
Narrative: ON MAY/FRI/03, A STUDENT PLT AND I (I AM A CERTIFIED FLT INSTRUCTOR) DEPARTED AT LCL FOR AN INST TRAINING FLT. THE STUDENT WAS AT THE CTLS DURING THE TKOF. I REQUESTED A CLRNC FOR IFR TO VFR ON TOP. AFTER TKOF WE WERE CLRED TO FLY HEADING 180 DEGS AND MAINTAIN 3000 FT. THE STUDENT REMAINED AT THE CTLS FOR THE CLB INTO THE CLOUDS. THE CLOUD BASES WERE 1600 FT AND THE TOPS WERE APPROX 3200 FT. AS WE APCHED 3000 FT, THE CLOUDS BEGAN TO THIN AND WE STARTED TO BREAK OUT. WHILE STILL ASCENDING THE STUDENT PLT BEGAN TO SHOW SIGNS OF SPATIAL DISORIENTATION DUE TO THE PASSING PATCHES OF CLOUDS AND BLUE SKY. I WAS CAREFULLY WATCHING THE STUDENT PLT, THE ATTITUDE INDICATOR, AS WELL AS THE HEADING INDICATOR FOR INDICATIONS OF CHANGES IN BANK ANGLE DUE TO SPATIAL DISORIENTATION. CONSISTENT WITH STANDARD PRACTICE FOR FLT INSTRUCTION, I DECIDED TO GIVE THE STUDENT PLT A BRIEF CHANCE TO USE THE INSTS TO WORK THROUGH THE DISORIENTATION. DURING THIS BRIEF TIME PERIOD WE WERE CONTACTED BY APCH AND ASKED WHAT WE WERE DOING AND IF WE HAD ALTIMETER PROBS. THE STUDENT PLT KEYED THE MIKE AND REPLIED THAT WE DID NOT HAVE ALTIMETER PROBS, BUT FAILED TO START AN ALT CORRECTION. AGAIN APCH CALLED AND ASKED IF WE UNDERSTOOD OUR LEVELOFF ALT AND REMINDED ME THAT I HAD READ BACK THE CLRNC. DURING THESE COMS, I IMMEDIATELY TOOK CTL AND RPTED TO APCH THAT WE WERE DSNDING FROM 3200 FT TO 3000 FT. AT 3000 FT WE WERE BACK IN THE CLOUD TOPS AND THE STUDENT WAS UNABLE TO RESUME FLYING DUE TO HIS CONTINUED SPATIAL DISORIENTATION. THE STUDENT DID NOT ASK FOR CTL, NOR DID I GIVE IT BACK TO HIM UNTIL WE WERE VFR ON TOP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.