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GA instructor pilot expressed frustration with ATC's lack of current information of approach procedures.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 582933 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200305 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : sbj.vor |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | PA-32 Cherokee Six/Lance/Saratoga |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 300 |
| ASRS Report | 582933 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | FAA ATC Human Performance Chart Or Publication |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Considerable confusion obtaining clearance for GPS IAP into somerville, nj. IAP had been modified (amended) approximately 2 weeks earlier. We had current IAP procedure plate (commercial chart). ATC did not have information on amended IAP. Much confusion and much clarifying xmissions were necessary for ATC and us to get in sync. This tied up a busy frequency for a significant period of time. Cockpit workload was unnecessarily, significantly, increased. On previous day training flight, ATC controller (abe TRACON) gave us clearance predicated upon a decommissioned NAVAID. I am greatly concerned that ATC controllers are not being given proper dissemination of crucial information.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GA INSTRUCTOR PLT EXPRESSED FRUSTRATION WITH ATC'S LACK OF CURRENT INFO OF APCH PROCS.
Narrative: CONSIDERABLE CONFUSION OBTAINING CLRNC FOR GPS IAP INTO SOMERVILLE, NJ. IAP HAD BEEN MODIFIED (AMENDED) APPROX 2 WKS EARLIER. WE HAD CURRENT IAP PROC PLATE (COMMERCIAL CHART). ATC DID NOT HAVE INFO ON AMENDED IAP. MUCH CONFUSION AND MUCH CLARIFYING XMISSIONS WERE NECESSARY FOR ATC AND US TO GET IN SYNC. THIS TIED UP A BUSY FREQ FOR A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME. COCKPIT WORKLOAD WAS UNNECESSARILY, SIGNIFICANTLY, INCREASED. ON PREVIOUS DAY TRAINING FLT, ATC CTLR (ABE TRACON) GAVE US CLRNC PREDICATED UPON A DECOMMISSIONED NAVAID. I AM GREATLY CONCERNED THAT ATC CTLRS ARE NOT BEING GIVEN PROPER DISSEMINATION OF CRUCIAL INFO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.