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Attributes | |
ACN | 583188 |
Time | |
Date | 200305 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : maintenance ground : parked |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 583188 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical maintenance problem : improper documentation maintenance problem : improper maintenance maintenance problem : non compliance with mel non adherence : far non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : right eng fire light other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | other |
Factors | |
Maintenance | contributing factor : schedule pressure performance deficiency : repair performance deficiency : non compliance with legal requirements performance deficiency : fault isolation |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Maintenance Human Performance Aircraft Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Maintenance Human Performance |
Narrative:
During preflight of flight, maintenance insisted on MEL'ing the #2 engine fire light on the 'engine' panel. The inbound crew had written the light up as coming on intermittently in-flight with no other fire indications. Engine #2 had 3 other MEL's mostly associated with the bleed system. The engine #2 fire test functioned normally on the ground, and tested ok via the mcdu, but maintenance would not sign off on the fire light citing a 'system' or 'grounding problem.' I told the captain that I was not comfortable flying with a fire light coming on but MEL'ed as 'inoperative.' the captain and maintenance both pressured me to fly. I called the chief pilot who told me it was ok to fly it. I feel strongly that air carrier improperly applied a fire warning light to a fire detection system that may or may not have been functioning correctly. I would like to know ASRS official position on this MEL if they feel it was applied correctly?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN AIRBUS 320 WAS DISPATCHED IN NON COMPLIANCE WITH AN INTERMITTENT ENG FIRE WARNING LIGHT DEFERRED IN CONFLICT WITH THE MEL.
Narrative: DURING PREFLT OF FLT, MAINT INSISTED ON MEL'ING THE #2 ENG FIRE LIGHT ON THE 'ENG' PANEL. THE INBOUND CREW HAD WRITTEN THE LIGHT UP AS COMING ON INTERMITTENTLY INFLT WITH NO OTHER FIRE INDICATIONS. ENG #2 HAD 3 OTHER MEL'S MOSTLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE BLEED SYS. THE ENG #2 FIRE TEST FUNCTIONED NORMALLY ON THE GND, AND TESTED OK VIA THE MCDU, BUT MAINT WOULD NOT SIGN OFF ON THE FIRE LIGHT CITING A 'SYS' OR 'GNDING PROB.' I TOLD THE CAPT THAT I WAS NOT COMFORTABLE FLYING WITH A FIRE LIGHT COMING ON BUT MEL'ED AS 'INOP.' THE CAPT AND MAINT BOTH PRESSURED ME TO FLY. I CALLED THE CHIEF PLT WHO TOLD ME IT WAS OK TO FLY IT. I FEEL STRONGLY THAT ACR IMPROPERLY APPLIED A FIRE WARNING LIGHT TO A FIRE DETECTION SYS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN FUNCTIONING CORRECTLY. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ASRS OFFICIAL POS ON THIS MEL IF THEY FEEL IT WAS APPLIED CORRECTLY?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.