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A floundering MD80 PIC is assisted by approach controller and the first officer during his attempt to make a normal pdz arrival and approach to runway 24L after a runway assignment change at lax, ca.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 583434 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200306 |
| Day | Sun |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon tower : lax.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 24r other vortac |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : instrument precision arrival star : paradise 4 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 700 |
| ASRS Report | 583434 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other anomaly other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course flight crew : became reoriented other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On paradise four arrival captain briefed pdz VOR on first officer's side and ILS on captain side for ILS runway 25L. Runway changed to ILS runway 24R by second approach controller. At pdz, captain (PF) didn't make course change until reminded by first officer of 277 degree radial outbound. He was joining the 277 degree radial when I told him he needed to switch to ILS runway 24R. We were at approximately 250 KTS at the time. I told him to switch to the ILS runway 24R and we were going to overshoot. At that time, we were issued 180 KTS to the FAF. I responded. Approach then canceled our approach clearance and gave us 5000 ft and a 220 degree heading. Captain turned off autoplt and autothrottles and turned and descended. He exceeded 250 KTS below 10000 ft MSL. I told him to check speed and suggested the speed brake or flaps 11 degrees. He added speed brakes, slowed and configured and was stabilized by 1000 ft AGL. We broke out around 700 ft AGL. Contributing factors: poor situational awareness, non GPS airplane.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A FLOUNDERING MD80 PIC IS ASSISTED BY APCH CTLR AND THE FO DURING HIS ATTEMPT TO MAKE A NORMAL PDZ ARR AND APCH TO RWY 24L AFTER A RWY ASSIGNMENT CHANGE AT LAX, CA.
Narrative: ON PARADISE FOUR ARR CAPT BRIEFED PDZ VOR ON FO'S SIDE AND ILS ON CAPT SIDE FOR ILS RWY 25L. RWY CHANGED TO ILS RWY 24R BY SECOND APCH CTLR. AT PDZ, CAPT (PF) DIDN'T MAKE COURSE CHANGE UNTIL REMINDED BY FO OF 277 DEG RADIAL OUTBOUND. HE WAS JOINING THE 277 DEG RADIAL WHEN I TOLD HIM HE NEEDED TO SWITCH TO ILS RWY 24R. WE WERE AT APPROX 250 KTS AT THE TIME. I TOLD HIM TO SWITCH TO THE ILS RWY 24R AND WE WERE GOING TO OVERSHOOT. AT THAT TIME, WE WERE ISSUED 180 KTS TO THE FAF. I RESPONDED. APCH THEN CANCELED OUR APCH CLRNC AND GAVE US 5000 FT AND A 220 DEG HDG. CAPT TURNED OFF AUTOPLT AND AUTOTHROTTLES AND TURNED AND DSNDED. HE EXCEEDED 250 KTS BELOW 10000 FT MSL. I TOLD HIM TO CHK SPD AND SUGGESTED THE SPD BRAKE OR FLAPS 11 DEGS. HE ADDED SPD BRAKES, SLOWED AND CONFIGURED AND WAS STABILIZED BY 1000 FT AGL. WE BROKE OUT AROUND 700 FT AGL. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: POOR SITUATIONAL AWARENESS, NON GPS AIRPLANE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.