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Attributes | |
ACN | 583723 |
Time | |
Date | 200305 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cvg.airport |
State Reference | KY |
Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cvg.tracon tower : msy.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-11 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 119 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 3200 |
ASRS Report | 583723 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : company policies |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : 3 |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Company |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Situations | |
Publication | QRH |
Narrative:
As we were climbing out, the captain called for flaps up. As I retracted them, we observed a level 2 alert 'all deflect disag.' the captain called for the checklist as we continued our climb to 9000 ft. Reading the checklist, it says that a diversion to a suitable airport was necessary. The PIC then contacted the company through VHF, as I took over the aircraft and radios. We leveled at 13000 ft. Speed +/- 250 KTS. After recycling the flaps, the alert still was there. We decided to return to cvg. Our chief pilot came on HF and read us a different checklist than the one onboard (maintained up-to-date by the airline personnel). We were at this point for about 35 mins at 13000 ft with slats extended, when we retracted the slats (which our onboard checklist didn't consider), and the alert went away. Our chief pilot told us to press on, we immediately initiated a climb to FL330. We then climbed to FL350 and later to FL370 (at which point our FMS was calculating an arrival fuel of 19000 pounds). We landed with 15700 pounds. I'd suggest to the company that they should update the onboard checklists in a timely manner.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CONFRONTED WITH A FLT CTL PROB, AN MD11 CREW FINDS THAT THE ONBOARD CHKLIST DOES NOT SUPPLY THE SOLUTION TO THEIR PROB, BUT THE VERSION READ BY GND PERSONNEL DOES. CURRENCY OF ONBOARD INFO IS QUESTIONED.
Narrative: AS WE WERE CLBING OUT, THE CAPT CALLED FOR FLAPS UP. AS I RETRACTED THEM, WE OBSERVED A LEVEL 2 ALERT 'ALL DEFLECT DISAG.' THE CAPT CALLED FOR THE CHKLIST AS WE CONTINUED OUR CLB TO 9000 FT. READING THE CHKLIST, IT SAYS THAT A DIVERSION TO A SUITABLE ARPT WAS NECESSARY. THE PIC THEN CONTACTED THE COMPANY THROUGH VHF, AS I TOOK OVER THE ACFT AND RADIOS. WE LEVELED AT 13000 FT. SPD +/- 250 KTS. AFTER RECYCLING THE FLAPS, THE ALERT STILL WAS THERE. WE DECIDED TO RETURN TO CVG. OUR CHIEF PLT CAME ON HF AND READ US A DIFFERENT CHKLIST THAN THE ONE ONBOARD (MAINTAINED UP-TO-DATE BY THE AIRLINE PERSONNEL). WE WERE AT THIS POINT FOR ABOUT 35 MINS AT 13000 FT WITH SLATS EXTENDED, WHEN WE RETRACTED THE SLATS (WHICH OUR ONBOARD CHKLIST DIDN'T CONSIDER), AND THE ALERT WENT AWAY. OUR CHIEF PLT TOLD US TO PRESS ON, WE IMMEDIATELY INITIATED A CLB TO FL330. WE THEN CLBED TO FL350 AND LATER TO FL370 (AT WHICH POINT OUR FMS WAS CALCULATING AN ARR FUEL OF 19000 LBS). WE LANDED WITH 15700 LBS. I'D SUGGEST TO THE COMPANY THAT THEY SHOULD UPDATE THE ONBOARD CHKLISTS IN A TIMELY MANNER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.