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Attributes | |
ACN | 584315 |
Time | |
Date | 200306 |
Day | Thu |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : alb.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 29000 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 584315 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical maintenance problem : improper maintenance non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : #2 eng fire warning other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | aircraft : evacuated controller : issued new clearance controller : provided flight assist flight crew : landed in emergency condition flight crew : diverted to another airport flight crew : declared emergency none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew faa : investigated other other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Maintenance Human Performance Company Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
Engine shutdown. Over albany, ny, at FL290, we received a #2 engine fire warning on the EICAS. We proceeded with the memory items and shut down the engine. The fire indication was extinguished without the aid of a fire bottle. We declared an emergency with ZBW and began a descent to the alb airport. The albany WX was given to us by the next controller. The checklists were completed and we coordinated with the flight attendant. We were vectored for the ILS to runway 19 where we broke out of the overcast at 1800 ft MSL to visual conditions -- the runway was dry. At the end of our rollout, we received another fire warning on the same engine. We stopped the aircraft on the taxiway, shot 1 fire bottle into the #2 engine. The warning was again extinguished. An evacuate/evacuation order was given and we performed the emergency shutdown checklists on the side chart holders. We then proceeded to assist the flight attendant with the evacuate/evacuation. The flight attendant was then evacuate/evacuationed with the first aid and medical kit. A head count was taken and confirmed all passenger were evacuate/evacuationed with no injuries. The passenger were xferred to the main terminal for bag retrieval and recommendations. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: after the incident, the captain contacted the FAA. A maintenance inspector found the company had only replaced the fire bottle and signed the problem off. A review of the aircraft maintenance record showed repeated fire warnings on #2 engine. All had been signed off with no action. After the FAA maintenance inspector questioned the company about the questionable maintenance, the company replaced the entire fire warning system. There was been no further problem since. The reporter said the aircraft has emb-135, which only has a single fire warning system. It has been customary in the united states for manufacturers to install a dual fire warning system to prevent false warnings.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: E-135 CREW HAD A #2 ENG FIRE WARNING IN ZNY CLASS A AIRSPACE.
Narrative: ENG SHUTDOWN. OVER ALBANY, NY, AT FL290, WE RECEIVED A #2 ENG FIRE WARNING ON THE EICAS. WE PROCEEDED WITH THE MEMORY ITEMS AND SHUT DOWN THE ENG. THE FIRE INDICATION WAS EXTINGUISHED WITHOUT THE AID OF A FIRE BOTTLE. WE DECLARED AN EMER WITH ZBW AND BEGAN A DSCNT TO THE ALB ARPT. THE ALBANY WX WAS GIVEN TO US BY THE NEXT CTLR. THE CHKLISTS WERE COMPLETED AND WE COORDINATED WITH THE FLT ATTENDANT. WE WERE VECTORED FOR THE ILS TO RWY 19 WHERE WE BROKE OUT OF THE OVCST AT 1800 FT MSL TO VISUAL CONDITIONS -- THE RWY WAS DRY. AT THE END OF OUR ROLLOUT, WE RECEIVED ANOTHER FIRE WARNING ON THE SAME ENG. WE STOPPED THE ACFT ON THE TXWY, SHOT 1 FIRE BOTTLE INTO THE #2 ENG. THE WARNING WAS AGAIN EXTINGUISHED. AN EVAC ORDER WAS GIVEN AND WE PERFORMED THE EMER SHUTDOWN CHKLISTS ON THE SIDE CHART HOLDERS. WE THEN PROCEEDED TO ASSIST THE FLT ATTENDANT WITH THE EVAC. THE FLT ATTENDANT WAS THEN EVACED WITH THE FIRST AID AND MEDICAL KIT. A HEAD COUNT WAS TAKEN AND CONFIRMED ALL PAX WERE EVACED WITH NO INJURIES. THE PAX WERE XFERRED TO THE MAIN TERMINAL FOR BAG RETRIEVAL AND RECOMMENDATIONS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: AFTER THE INCIDENT, THE CAPT CONTACTED THE FAA. A MAINT INSPECTOR FOUND THE COMPANY HAD ONLY REPLACED THE FIRE BOTTLE AND SIGNED THE PROB OFF. A REVIEW OF THE ACFT MAINT RECORD SHOWED REPEATED FIRE WARNINGS ON #2 ENG. ALL HAD BEEN SIGNED OFF WITH NO ACTION. AFTER THE FAA MAINT INSPECTOR QUESTIONED THE COMPANY ABOUT THE QUESTIONABLE MAINT, THE COMPANY REPLACED THE ENTIRE FIRE WARNING SYS. THERE WAS BEEN NO FURTHER PROB SINCE. THE RPTR SAID THE ACFT HAS EMB-135, WHICH ONLY HAS A SINGLE FIRE WARNING SYS. IT HAS BEEN CUSTOMARY IN THE UNITED STATES FOR MANUFACTURERS TO INSTALL A DUAL FIRE WARNING SYS TO PREVENT FALSE WARNINGS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.