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Attributes | |
ACN | 588674 |
Time | |
Date | 200307 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tvc.airport |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl single value : 2700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zmp.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Beechjet 400 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 7480 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 588674 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radio / radar aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : radio other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Narrative:
We were at 2700 ft MSL, being vectored around the airport for VFR and IFR traffic in the area. About 10 mi from the airport, we were cleared direct to the airport. We were in and out of the bases. ATC was busy, and working 2 frequencys. About 6 mi from the airport, it was apparent we would need the instrument approach. We were trying to wait for a break in communications to make our request. On 2 occasions, someone had a stuck microphone. We were concerned that ATC thought we were VFR (since we were given direct the airport), and we might be very close to VFR traffic. ATC then asked us if we had the airport. My copilot lost his temper on the radio. There were several radio exchanges, and more time was used up on us trying to get vectors for the instrument approach. Landed safely after instrument approach. Tensions were high, the radio was congested, WX was deteriorating. My copilot should not have expressed his frustration on the radio. ATC should avoid having controllers work 2 frequencys.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A BUSY ZMP ARTCC CTLR PROVIDING APCH CTL SVC INTO TVC ATTEMPTED TO ISSUE A BE400 CREW A VISUAL APCH IN DETERIORATING WX CONDITIONS.
Narrative: WE WERE AT 2700 FT MSL, BEING VECTORED AROUND THE ARPT FOR VFR AND IFR TFC IN THE AREA. ABOUT 10 MI FROM THE ARPT, WE WERE CLRED DIRECT TO THE ARPT. WE WERE IN AND OUT OF THE BASES. ATC WAS BUSY, AND WORKING 2 FREQS. ABOUT 6 MI FROM THE ARPT, IT WAS APPARENT WE WOULD NEED THE INST APCH. WE WERE TRYING TO WAIT FOR A BREAK IN COMS TO MAKE OUR REQUEST. ON 2 OCCASIONS, SOMEONE HAD A STUCK MIKE. WE WERE CONCERNED THAT ATC THOUGHT WE WERE VFR (SINCE WE WERE GIVEN DIRECT THE ARPT), AND WE MIGHT BE VERY CLOSE TO VFR TFC. ATC THEN ASKED US IF WE HAD THE ARPT. MY COPLT LOST HIS TEMPER ON THE RADIO. THERE WERE SEVERAL RADIO EXCHANGES, AND MORE TIME WAS USED UP ON US TRYING TO GET VECTORS FOR THE INST APCH. LANDED SAFELY AFTER INST APCH. TENSIONS WERE HIGH, THE RADIO WAS CONGESTED, WX WAS DETERIORATING. MY COPLT SHOULD NOT HAVE EXPRESSED HIS FRUSTRATION ON THE RADIO. ATC SHOULD AVOID HAVING CTLRS WORK 2 FREQS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.