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Attributes | |
ACN | 588997 |
Time | |
Date | 200307 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : wdg.airport |
State Reference | OK |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1167 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : wdg.tower |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 650 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 588997 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | FAA Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
The tower controller at enid/woodring tower would not respond back to us, and would not clear us for the option. The controller said that by him telling us to make left closed pattern he did not need to clear us for landing or touch and go. Enid/woodring is a class D airport with an operating control tower. My understanding of 91.127 states that I must receive clearance from the tower controller before I/my aircraft touches the active use runway.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 PRACTICING AT WDG IS CONFUSED WITH ATC INSTRUCTIONS.
Narrative: THE TWR CTLR AT ENID/WOODRING TWR WOULD NOT RESPOND BACK TO US, AND WOULD NOT CLEAR US FOR THE OPTION. THE CTLR SAID THAT BY HIM TELLING US TO MAKE LEFT CLOSED PATTERN HE DID NOT NEED TO CLR US FOR LANDING OR TOUCH AND GO. ENID/WOODRING IS A CLASS D ARPT WITH AN OPERATING CTL TWR. MY UNDERSTANDING OF 91.127 STATES THAT I MUST RECEIVE CLRNC FROM THE TWR CTLR BEFORE I/MY ACFT TOUCHES THE ACTIVE USE RWY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.