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A BA3100 flight crew received a TCASII RA due to a piper warrior traffic that the approach controller failed to point out.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 589546 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200307 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : csx.vor |
| State Reference | MO |
| Altitude | msl single value : 8000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : t75.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : charter |
| Make Model Name | Jetstream 32 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Navigation In Use | other vortac |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival star : rivers |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : t75.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : charter |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 589546 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : charter |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | vertical : 1000 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Flying to stl, at 8000 ft, on the rivers two arrival, we were 30 NM out on the 326 degree radial off of csx VOR. We then received a 'TA' for an aircraft that was at our 2 O'clock position and 3 NM out. That was immediately followed by an 'RA' that told us to 'climb, climb.' as the first officer began the climb I announced to stl airport that we were climbing due to the 'RA.' stl approach simply told us to return to our altitude (8000 ft) once we cleared the conflict. We reached 8500 ft, then returned to 8000 ft. The other aircraft passed to our right, still at 7500 ft and about 1 NM away. No other aircraft were involved. ATC did not notify us of the other aircraft prior to us receiving the TCASII advisory.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A BA3100 FLT CREW RECEIVED A TCASII RA DUE TO A PIPER WARRIOR TFC THAT THE APCH CTLR FAILED TO POINT OUT.
Narrative: FLYING TO STL, AT 8000 FT, ON THE RIVERS TWO ARR, WE WERE 30 NM OUT ON THE 326 DEG RADIAL OFF OF CSX VOR. WE THEN RECEIVED A 'TA' FOR AN ACFT THAT WAS AT OUR 2 O'CLOCK POS AND 3 NM OUT. THAT WAS IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWED BY AN 'RA' THAT TOLD US TO 'CLB, CLB.' AS THE FO BEGAN THE CLB I ANNOUNCED TO STL ARPT THAT WE WERE CLBING DUE TO THE 'RA.' STL APCH SIMPLY TOLD US TO RETURN TO OUR ALT (8000 FT) ONCE WE CLRED THE CONFLICT. WE REACHED 8500 FT, THEN RETURNED TO 8000 FT. THE OTHER ACFT PASSED TO OUR R, STILL AT 7500 FT AND ABOUT 1 NM AWAY. NO OTHER ACFT WERE INVOLVED. ATC DID NOT NOTIFY US OF THE OTHER ACFT PRIOR TO US RECEIVING THE TCASII ADVISORY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.