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ZID radar team notified 'after the fact' of ZOB airspace deviation. ZID controller alleges sequencing problems, coordination, staffing, WX deviations and traffic management failures.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 589808 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200307 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : rid.vortac |
| State Reference | IN |
| Altitude | msl single value : 8300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau.artcc artcc : zid.artcc tracon : ind.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-24 Turbo Comanche |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid.artcc artcc : zau.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller limited radar : 3 controller radar : 13 |
| ASRS Report | 589808 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : handoff position |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry inflight encounter : weather non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other other : supvr 3 |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Environmental Factor Weather |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure Operational Deviation |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | staffing : zid.artcc |
Narrative:
Aircraft X called on frequency requesting IFR clearance. Aircraft was still in ind approach airspace. After approval to issue clearance was obtained, clearance was issued. Aircraft X failed to top day approach airspace and was never pointed out. Other factors include: a 25 mile in-trail restr to ord. At least 4 aircraft were given releases to ord through my sector. There was virtually no traffic management assistance. One of these aircraft (air carrier Y) was vectored at least 5 times, then given a 360 degree turn to obtain the 25 mi. After all this, ZAU informed me air carrier Y would be put in holding. Another one of these (air carrier Z) was given 2 re-routes, then told it would also be put in holding. Another factor was spacing for cvg. 2 of the 4 inbound fixes to cvg were closed due to WX impacting the area. My sector was working many extra flts that we normally would not be working. On 2 occasions, I requested help on this situation to the supervisor in-charge and virtually no help was given. We (sector team) were informed of error approximately 15 mins later by supervisor. We had no idea an error had occurred.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZID RADAR TEAM NOTIFIED 'AFTER THE FACT' OF ZOB AIRSPACE DEV. ZID CTLR ALLEGES SEQUENCING PROBS, COORD, STAFFING, WX DEVS AND TFC MGMNT FAILURES.
Narrative: ACFT X CALLED ON FREQ REQUESTING IFR CLRNC. ACFT WAS STILL IN IND APCH AIRSPACE. AFTER APPROVAL TO ISSUE CLRNC WAS OBTAINED, CLRNC WAS ISSUED. ACFT X FAILED TO TOP DAY APCH AIRSPACE AND WAS NEVER POINTED OUT. OTHER FACTORS INCLUDE: A 25 MILE IN-TRAIL RESTR TO ORD. AT LEAST 4 ACFT WERE GIVEN RELEASES TO ORD THROUGH MY SECTOR. THERE WAS VIRTUALLY NO TFC MGMNT ASSISTANCE. ONE OF THESE ACFT (ACR Y) WAS VECTORED AT LEAST 5 TIMES, THEN GIVEN A 360 DEG TURN TO OBTAIN THE 25 MI. AFTER ALL THIS, ZAU INFORMED ME ACR Y WOULD BE PUT IN HOLDING. ANOTHER ONE OF THESE (ACR Z) WAS GIVEN 2 RE-ROUTES, THEN TOLD IT WOULD ALSO BE PUT IN HOLDING. ANOTHER FACTOR WAS SPACING FOR CVG. 2 OF THE 4 INBOUND FIXES TO CVG WERE CLOSED DUE TO WX IMPACTING THE AREA. MY SECTOR WAS WORKING MANY EXTRA FLTS THAT WE NORMALLY WOULD NOT BE WORKING. ON 2 OCCASIONS, I REQUESTED HELP ON THIS SIT TO THE SUPVR IN-CHARGE AND VIRTUALLY NO HELP WAS GIVEN. WE (SECTOR TEAM) WERE INFORMED OF ERROR APPROX 15 MINS LATER BY SUPVR. WE HAD NO IDEA AN ERROR HAD OCCURRED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.