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Attributes | |
ACN | 590944 |
Time | |
Date | 200308 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : vylla |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl single value : 35000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Thunderstorm |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : mmex.artcc artcc : zab.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors enroute airway : j92.airway |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 590944 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry inflight encounter : weather non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory flight crew : declared emergency flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Approximately 50-100 mi south of vylla intersection, while flying northbound on J92, we requested a course deviation from mazatlan center of 20 degrees left off course to avoid WX that was over vylla. The WX extended north to just south of tus. Mazatlan center granted the request with no restrs. About the time we were crossing the us - mexico border, at a point roughly 30 mi west of the vylla intersection, mazatlan center requested that we contact ZAB and he gave us the frequency. We checked in with ZAB and were immediately told to squawk 7700. When we inquired as to why, we were told that we were about to enter an active military operations area. The controller then told us to turn right as far as possible, while remaining clear of the storm to avoid the MOA. ZAB continued to vector us away from the MOA until we re-intercepted our flight planned route. We continued into phoenix and landed without incident. Needless to say, we were a little alarmed that we were allowed to fly into a situation that constituted enough of an emergency in the controller's (albuquerque) mind that he felt we needed to squawk 7700. Is there no communication at all between the ATC facilities in the us and mexico. Is mexican ATC unaware of MOA's that exist just over the border in the united states? I guess in the future if I ever have to cross the border at a point other than the flat planned route, I will call the appropriate us TRACON prior to crossing, just to confirm that our route won't be a problem when we arrive at the border.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 XING US BORDER FROM MEXICO ON WX DEV RTE IS ASSIGNED 7700 BY ZAB ATC.
Narrative: APPROX 50-100 MI S OF VYLLA INTXN, WHILE FLYING NBOUND ON J92, WE REQUESTED A COURSE DEV FROM MAZATLAN CTR OF 20 DEGS L OFF COURSE TO AVOID WX THAT WAS OVER VYLLA. THE WX EXTENDED N TO JUST S OF TUS. MAZATLAN CTR GRANTED THE REQUEST WITH NO RESTRS. ABOUT THE TIME WE WERE XING THE US - MEXICO BORDER, AT A POINT ROUGHLY 30 MI W OF THE VYLLA INTXN, MAZATLAN CTR REQUESTED THAT WE CONTACT ZAB AND HE GAVE US THE FREQ. WE CHKED IN WITH ZAB AND WERE IMMEDIATELY TOLD TO SQUAWK 7700. WHEN WE INQUIRED AS TO WHY, WE WERE TOLD THAT WE WERE ABOUT TO ENTER AN ACTIVE MIL OPS AREA. THE CTLR THEN TOLD US TO TURN R AS FAR AS POSSIBLE, WHILE REMAINING CLR OF THE STORM TO AVOID THE MOA. ZAB CONTINUED TO VECTOR US AWAY FROM THE MOA UNTIL WE RE-INTERCEPTED OUR FLT PLANNED RTE. WE CONTINUED INTO PHOENIX AND LANDED WITHOUT INCIDENT. NEEDLESS TO SAY, WE WERE A LITTLE ALARMED THAT WE WERE ALLOWED TO FLY INTO A SIT THAT CONSTITUTED ENOUGH OF AN EMER IN THE CTLR'S (ALBUQUERQUE) MIND THAT HE FELT WE NEEDED TO SQUAWK 7700. IS THERE NO COM AT ALL BTWN THE ATC FACILITIES IN THE US AND MEXICO. IS MEXICAN ATC UNAWARE OF MOA'S THAT EXIST JUST OVER THE BORDER IN THE UNITED STATES? I GUESS IN THE FUTURE IF I EVER HAVE TO CROSS THE BORDER AT A POINT OTHER THAN THE FLAT PLANNED RTE, I WILL CALL THE APPROPRIATE US TRACON PRIOR TO XING, JUST TO CONFIRM THAT OUR RTE WON'T BE A PROB WHEN WE ARRIVE AT THE BORDER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.