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Attributes | |
ACN | 591394 |
Time | |
Date | 200308 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dca.airport |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 400 agl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc.artcc tower : fpr.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-88 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure : noise abatement |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 175 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 591394 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated Other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure Airport Environmental Factor |
Primary Problem | Airspace Structure |
Narrative:
Normal operations and normal procedures operating out of dca. First officer's leg outbound to atl with a full load of passenger on a hot summer morning. Long takeoff roll on runway 1, turn at 400 ft AGL (approximately 15 degree bank), maximum outbound visually over the river to intercept the dca 328 degree radial outbound. Lost the river at about 1500 ft on a 5-10 degrees (approximately 322 degrees) heading to intercept the dca 328 degree radial. In contact with departure, then sent to center. Again, normal departure, normal operations out of dca. Although departure control and ZDC's radar did not detect encroachment, secret service questioned this particular departure. This NASA report is simply to restate the tight departure parameters surrounding P-56. Heavy weight, hot day, 15 degree bank turns at low altitudes with full power (executed very conscientiously) might still put you within the encroachment parameters of P-56. Lesson learned: fly as 'tight' as possible. I didn't think that I was even close to setting off encroachment buffers. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter advised that the flight crew was interviewed at their destination and asked to provide written statements of the event. No further communication has been received by any other organization.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD88 FLT CREW NOTIFIED UPON RTE LEG COMPLETION OF GOV CONCERN OF P56 PROX TRACK WHEN DEPARTING DCA.
Narrative: NORMAL OPS AND NORMAL PROCS OPERATING OUT OF DCA. FO'S LEG OUTBOUND TO ATL WITH A FULL LOAD OF PAX ON A HOT SUMMER MORNING. LONG TKOF ROLL ON RWY 1, TURN AT 400 FT AGL (APPROX 15 DEG BANK), MAX OUTBOUND VISUALLY OVER THE RIVER TO INTERCEPT THE DCA 328 DEG RADIAL OUTBOUND. LOST THE RIVER AT ABOUT 1500 FT ON A 5-10 DEGS (APPROX 322 DEGS) HEADING TO INTERCEPT THE DCA 328 DEG RADIAL. IN CONTACT WITH DEP, THEN SENT TO CTR. AGAIN, NORMAL DEP, NORMAL OPS OUT OF DCA. ALTHOUGH DEP CTL AND ZDC'S RADAR DID NOT DETECT ENCROACHMENT, SECRET SVC QUESTIONED THIS PARTICULAR DEP. THIS NASA RPT IS SIMPLY TO RESTATE THE TIGHT DEP PARAMETERS SURROUNDING P-56. HVY WT, HOT DAY, 15 DEG BANK TURNS AT LOW ALTS WITH FULL PWR (EXECUTED VERY CONSCIENTIOUSLY) MIGHT STILL PUT YOU WITHIN THE ENCROACHMENT PARAMETERS OF P-56. LESSON LEARNED: FLY AS 'TIGHT' AS POSSIBLE. I DIDN'T THINK THAT I WAS EVEN CLOSE TO SETTING OFF ENCROACHMENT BUFFERS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR ADVISED THAT THE FLT CREW WAS INTERVIEWED AT THEIR DEST AND ASKED TO PROVIDE WRITTEN STATEMENTS OF THE EVENT. NO FURTHER COM HAS BEEN RECEIVED BY ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.