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Attributes | |
ACN | 592161 |
Time | |
Date | 200308 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl single value : 7300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : zzz.tower tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern departure : vfr |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 2000 flight time type : 336 |
ASRS Report | 592161 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 30 vertical : 10 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On aug/fri/03, I was conducting a pre-solo stage check with a student. We had been in the northern practice areas, and wanted to return to the airfield to do touch-and-goes. We were approved for a straight-in approach to runway 16L. The student came in high and fast, thus decided to execute a go around. We were told to go around on the left side, and did so. While we were going around, a C172 was cleared for takeoff. At this time, we are both on upwind for runway 16L. My student and I were told to follow another DA20 (diamond falcon) on downwind, but we were not cleared to make left closed traffic (at military airports, one must receive clearance to turn crosswind). While my student was trying to call tower to request left closed traffic (the pattern was very congested, and my student was having a hard time getting a word in), the tower controller cleared the C172, who was about 30 ft below and slightly ahead and right of us and climbing, for left closed traffic. The controller did not advise the C172 of us, and I doubt if the 2 pilots on board that C172 knew we were there. While they were in a climbing left turn for the crosswind, I quickly took the controls from my student, applied full power and pulled the nose up to about 20 degrees in pitch to avoid hitting the C172. If the tower controller wanted us to execute the left turn for the crosswind and follow the other DA20 that was on downwind, she should have told us that we were cleared for left closed traffic. She did not do so, and it is my belief that if I would have made the crosswind turn without clearance, I would have been violated.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DA20 INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT AND A C172 HAD AN NMAC AFTER A STUDENT GAR BECAUSE OF AN UNSTABILIZED APCH.
Narrative: ON AUG/FRI/03, I WAS CONDUCTING A PRE-SOLO STAGE CHK WITH A STUDENT. WE HAD BEEN IN THE NORTHERN PRACTICE AREAS, AND WANTED TO RETURN TO THE AIRFIELD TO DO TOUCH-AND-GOES. WE WERE APPROVED FOR A STRAIGHT-IN APCH TO RWY 16L. THE STUDENT CAME IN HIGH AND FAST, THUS DECIDED TO EXECUTE A GAR. WE WERE TOLD TO GO AROUND ON THE L SIDE, AND DID SO. WHILE WE WERE GOING AROUND, A C172 WAS CLRED FOR TKOF. AT THIS TIME, WE ARE BOTH ON UPWIND FOR RWY 16L. MY STUDENT AND I WERE TOLD TO FOLLOW ANOTHER DA20 (DIAMOND FALCON) ON DOWNWIND, BUT WE WERE NOT CLRED TO MAKE L CLOSED TFC (AT MIL ARPTS, ONE MUST RECEIVE CLRNC TO TURN XWIND). WHILE MY STUDENT WAS TRYING TO CALL TWR TO REQUEST L CLOSED TFC (THE PATTERN WAS VERY CONGESTED, AND MY STUDENT WAS HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING A WORD IN), THE TWR CTLR CLRED THE C172, WHO WAS ABOUT 30 FT BELOW AND SLIGHTLY AHEAD AND R OF US AND CLBING, FOR L CLOSED TFC. THE CTLR DID NOT ADVISE THE C172 OF US, AND I DOUBT IF THE 2 PLTS ON BOARD THAT C172 KNEW WE WERE THERE. WHILE THEY WERE IN A CLBING L TURN FOR THE XWIND, I QUICKLY TOOK THE CTLS FROM MY STUDENT, APPLIED FULL PWR AND PULLED THE NOSE UP TO ABOUT 20 DEGS IN PITCH TO AVOID HITTING THE C172. IF THE TWR CTLR WANTED US TO EXECUTE THE L TURN FOR THE XWIND AND FOLLOW THE OTHER DA20 THAT WAS ON DOWNWIND, SHE SHOULD HAVE TOLD US THAT WE WERE CLRED FOR L CLOSED TFC. SHE DID NOT DO SO, AND IT IS MY BELIEF THAT IF I WOULD HAVE MADE THE XWIND TURN WITHOUT CLRNC, I WOULD HAVE BEEN VIOLATED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.