<< >> NASA ASRS Report 593035, August 2003

An LR25 air ambulance first officer, PNF, was unable to back his captain up during departure from teb, as he did not have the assigned plate with him.

Attributes
ACN	593035
Time
Date	200308
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : teb.airport
State Reference	NJ
Altitude	msl single value : 1700
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : n90.tracon
Operator	common carrier : air taxi
Make Model Name	Learjet 25
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 135
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : initial
Route In Use	departure sid : dalton vfr
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air taxi
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 5350 flight time type : 350
ASRS Report	593035
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air taxi
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : clearance non adherence : company policies other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Company Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

During taxi for takeoff at teb, an amended clearance was offered (dalton VFR departure). As PNF, I told captain (PF) that I did not have the departure. He said 'that's ok, I'll take it.' during climb out, when contact with departure controller was made, he said 'descend immediately to 130 ft, heading 230 degrees, that's the dalton departure.' the captain complied.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AN LR25 AIR AMBULANCE FO, PNF, WAS UNABLE TO BACK HIS CAPT UP DURING DEP FROM TEB, AS HE DID NOT HAVE THE ASSIGNED PLATE WITH HIM.

Narrative: DURING TAXI FOR TKOF AT TEB, AN AMENDED CLRNC WAS OFFERED (DALTON VFR DEP). AS PNF, I TOLD CAPT (PF) THAT I DID NOT HAVE THE DEP. HE SAID 'THAT'S OK, I'LL TAKE IT.' DURING CLBOUT, WHEN CONTACT WITH DEP CTLR WAS MADE, HE SAID 'DSND IMMEDIATELY TO 130 FT, HDG 230 DEGS, THAT'S THE DALTON DEP.' THE CAPT COMPLIED.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.