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Attributes | |
ACN | 593181 |
Time | |
Date | 200309 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sdl.airport |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2700 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : p50.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Cessna 340/340A |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : initial |
Route In Use | enroute other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 60 |
ASRS Report | 593181 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Airspace Structure |
Narrative:
Received local area briefing by computer. WX VFR, unlimited visibility and no NOTAMS/tfr's that would prevent completion of my local VFR ferry flight. Departed sdl class D sbound for a scheduled maintenance appointment, requested frequency change from tower while still in class D to obtain phx ATIS. Continued south and climbed to 2700 ft MSL clear of class D. Contacted approach control and requested class B clearance landing phx. ATC issued squawk code, but did not issue clearance. I was underneath class B at 2700 ft MSL. ATC idented my aircraft and suggested I fly on a general heading of northwest without a class B clearance. This was confusing because looking at my terminal map, a northwest heading appeared to intentionally put me back into class D airspace without a clearance, so I elected to fly ene to remain clear of class B and class D airspace. ATC questioned my heading of ene, and I relayed my concern about class D airspace if I headed northwest. ATC then issued a clearance to 5000 ft MSL on a general heading of northwest. I began my climb and turn, saw on the map I needed to be above 4000 ft MSL to stay clear of class D airspace in front of me. I was right next to class D as I continued my climb through 4000 ft MSL to my assigned altitude of 5000 ft MSL. I feel there may be a possibility of an unintentional airspace violation into class D. I continued my climb to 5000 ft MSL and ATC had me hold a general position northwest of sdl for about 15 mins before sequencing me into the traffic flow for phx. The flight ws completed without further incident. My first contact with the approach controller, I got the impression of a confrontational altitude culminating in what I felt might be a deliberate attempt to put me in an airspace violation. Whether my perception is correct or not, the result was I was distraction by this perceived attitude. To me, the controller seemed very impatient with my request to land at phx at a busy time of the morning. I also had the perception he was going to make me wait for sequencing on purpose. Again, right or wrong, this was my perception and interaction with me as a pilot. Because of this, I did make an extra effort to be careful of my wording and tone of voice with the controller.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C340 LNDG PHX IS FRUSTRATED WITH ATC AND INADVERTENTLY MAY HAVE ENTERED CLASS D AIRSPACE.
Narrative: RECEIVED LCL AREA BRIEFING BY COMPUTER. WX VFR, UNLIMITED VISIBILITY AND NO NOTAMS/TFR'S THAT WOULD PREVENT COMPLETION OF MY LCL VFR FERRY FLT. DEPARTED SDL CLASS D SBOUND FOR A SCHEDULED MAINT APPOINTMENT, REQUESTED FREQ CHANGE FROM TWR WHILE STILL IN CLASS D TO OBTAIN PHX ATIS. CONTINUED S AND CLBED TO 2700 FT MSL CLR OF CLASS D. CONTACTED APCH CTL AND REQUESTED CLASS B CLRNC LNDG PHX. ATC ISSUED SQUAWK CODE, BUT DID NOT ISSUE CLRNC. I WAS UNDERNEATH CLASS B AT 2700 FT MSL. ATC IDENTED MY ACFT AND SUGGESTED I FLY ON A GENERAL HDG OF NW WITHOUT A CLASS B CLRNC. THIS WAS CONFUSING BECAUSE LOOKING AT MY TERMINAL MAP, A NW HDG APPEARED TO INTENTIONALLY PUT ME BACK INTO CLASS D AIRSPACE WITHOUT A CLRNC, SO I ELECTED TO FLY ENE TO REMAIN CLR OF CLASS B AND CLASS D AIRSPACE. ATC QUESTIONED MY HDG OF ENE, AND I RELAYED MY CONCERN ABOUT CLASS D AIRSPACE IF I HEADED NW. ATC THEN ISSUED A CLRNC TO 5000 FT MSL ON A GENERAL HDG OF NW. I BEGAN MY CLB AND TURN, SAW ON THE MAP I NEEDED TO BE ABOVE 4000 FT MSL TO STAY CLR OF CLASS D AIRSPACE IN FRONT OF ME. I WAS RIGHT NEXT TO CLASS D AS I CONTINUED MY CLB THROUGH 4000 FT MSL TO MY ASSIGNED ALT OF 5000 FT MSL. I FEEL THERE MAY BE A POSSIBILITY OF AN UNINTENTIONAL AIRSPACE VIOLATION INTO CLASS D. I CONTINUED MY CLB TO 5000 FT MSL AND ATC HAD ME HOLD A GENERAL POS NW OF SDL FOR ABOUT 15 MINS BEFORE SEQUENCING ME INTO THE TFC FLOW FOR PHX. THE FLT WS COMPLETED WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. MY FIRST CONTACT WITH THE APCH CTLR, I GOT THE IMPRESSION OF A CONFRONTATIONAL ALT CULMINATING IN WHAT I FELT MIGHT BE A DELIBERATE ATTEMPT TO PUT ME IN AN AIRSPACE VIOLATION. WHETHER MY PERCEPTION IS CORRECT OR NOT, THE RESULT WAS I WAS DISTR BY THIS PERCEIVED ATTITUDE. TO ME, THE CTLR SEEMED VERY IMPATIENT WITH MY REQUEST TO LAND AT PHX AT A BUSY TIME OF THE MORNING. I ALSO HAD THE PERCEPTION HE WAS GOING TO MAKE ME WAIT FOR SEQUENCING ON PURPOSE. AGAIN, RIGHT OR WRONG, THIS WAS MY PERCEPTION AND INTERACTION WITH ME AS A PLT. BECAUSE OF THIS, I DID MAKE AN EXTRA EFFORT TO BE CAREFUL OF MY WORDING AND TONE OF VOICE WITH THE CTLR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.