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Attributes | |
ACN | 594130 |
Time | |
Date | 200309 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzzz.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B777-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : parked |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 594130 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | other personnel other |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : company policies |
Independent Detector | other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
I certainly hope that flight operations realizes that some pilot crew members, who have been assigned to 2-MAN operations over the north atlantic, have been making beds on the floor behind the seats to take a nap while en route over the north atlantic. On some occasions, it has been mentioned that both pilot crew members fell asleep. I have not been a crew member participant in this unsafe process. My knowledge of these events is the result of overhearing pilot conversations in the bar at the layover hotel. I do not specifically know the names/identities of the individuals who made the remarks. I only know that it is happening on a regular basis. It is unsafe. The traveling public would most probably be very unnerved if this were to be publicly divulged by someone. The tight scheduling of 3-ON/2-off and the resultant 88 hour monthly schedules that disrupts the circadian rhythm cycle, it would appear, makes this process necessary for pilot awareness/survival in the terminal area. I have noticed that a lot of pilots are much more concerned about aviation safety and security than they are about industry financial health.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: IT IS RPTED THAT PLTS ARE SLEEPING IN THE COCKPIT ON 2 PERSON CREWS SCHEDULED OVER THE N ATLANTIC IN ORDER TO BE ALERT FOR ARR PROCS.
Narrative: I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT FLT OPS REALIZES THAT SOME PLT CREW MEMBERS, WHO HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED TO 2-MAN OPS OVER THE N ATLANTIC, HAVE BEEN MAKING BEDS ON THE FLOOR BEHIND THE SEATS TO TAKE A NAP WHILE ENRTE OVER THE N ATLANTIC. ON SOME OCCASIONS, IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED THAT BOTH PLT CREW MEMBERS FELL ASLEEP. I HAVE NOT BEEN A CREW MEMBER PARTICIPANT IN THIS UNSAFE PROCESS. MY KNOWLEDGE OF THESE EVENTS IS THE RESULT OF OVERHEARING PLT CONVERSATIONS IN THE BAR AT THE LAYOVER HOTEL. I DO NOT SPECIFICALLY KNOW THE NAMES/IDENTITIES OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO MADE THE REMARKS. I ONLY KNOW THAT IT IS HAPPENING ON A REGULAR BASIS. IT IS UNSAFE. THE TRAVELING PUBLIC WOULD MOST PROBABLY BE VERY UNNERVED IF THIS WERE TO BE PUBLICLY DIVULGED BY SOMEONE. THE TIGHT SCHEDULING OF 3-ON/2-OFF AND THE RESULTANT 88 HR MONTHLY SCHEDULES THAT DISRUPTS THE CIRCADIAN RHYTHM CYCLE, IT WOULD APPEAR, MAKES THIS PROCESS NECESSARY FOR PLT AWARENESS/SURVIVAL IN THE TERMINAL AREA. I HAVE NOTICED THAT A LOT OF PLTS ARE MUCH MORE CONCERNED ABOUT AVIATION SAFETY AND SECURITY THAN THEY ARE ABOUT INDUSTRY FINANCIAL HEALTH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.