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An air carrier pilot questions the transportation time included in his rest period of 24 hours required to be free of duty in a 7 day period.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 594185 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200309 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : egll.airport |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lou.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B777-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : parked |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 22 |
| ASRS Report | 594185 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | other personnel other |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : company policies non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was assigned a 7 day identification with what was told to me a legal crew rest in lhr that satisfies the 24 hours off from all duty at least once in any 7 day period. We landed in lhr from sfo at XA25Z and did not get to the hotel until XB40Z on the fri/sep/03. We left the hotel at XB00Z on the sat of september. I am self disclosing, because I am not sure as to the language of the far's and don't want to violate any. I guess my question is whether or not the company transportation schedule is considered free from duty or not. Obviously there was not 24 consecutive hours free from all duty, but if you only count flying duty there was.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN AIR CARRIER PLT QUESTIONS THE TRANSPORTATION TIME INCLUDED IN HIS REST PERIOD OF 24 HRS REQUIRED TO BE FREE OF DUTY IN A 7 DAY PERIOD.
Narrative: I WAS ASSIGNED A 7 DAY ID WITH WHAT WAS TOLD TO ME A LEGAL CREW REST IN LHR THAT SATISFIES THE 24 HRS OFF FROM ALL DUTY AT LEAST ONCE IN ANY 7 DAY PERIOD. WE LANDED IN LHR FROM SFO AT XA25Z AND DID NOT GET TO THE HOTEL UNTIL XB40Z ON THE FRI/SEP/03. WE LEFT THE HOTEL AT XB00Z ON THE SAT OF SEPTEMBER. I AM SELF DISCLOSING, BECAUSE I AM NOT SURE AS TO THE LANGUAGE OF THE FAR'S AND DON'T WANT TO VIOLATE ANY. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT THE COMPANY TRANSPORTATION SCHEDULE IS CONSIDERED FREE FROM DUTY OR NOT. OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS NOT 24 CONSECUTIVE HRS FREE FROM ALL DUTY, BUT IF YOU ONLY COUNT FLYING DUTY THERE WAS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.