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Attributes | |
ACN | 594699 |
Time | |
Date | 200309 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : crw.airport |
State Reference | WV |
Altitude | msl single value : 4500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : crw.tracon tower : crw.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Do 328 TP (Turboprop) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 3600 flight time type : 1800 |
ASRS Report | 594699 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other controllerb other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Prior to takeoff we were given 'out of 1600 ft, turn left on course, clear for takeoff.' I read back the clearance word for word, and that is what the captain briefed for takeoff. On departure, we turned on course and a few mins later, the departure controller asked 'who gave you on course.' I replied, 'the tower.' he said they did not. No conflicts were involved. The local controller was very busy. He was working clearance, ground, and tower. All were on different frequencys. People were talking all over each other. It seemed that the controller was confused because he kept calling us different call signs. If a controller is working multiple frequencys, it should be required that only 1 frequency be used. Also, every departure clearance begins with 'out of 1600 ft,' making a departure procedure would be a lot easier.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DEPARTING D328 IS INSTRUCTED BY CRW LCL CTLR TO TURN L ON COURSE WHICH IS DISPUTED BY THE DEP CTLR.
Narrative: PRIOR TO TKOF WE WERE GIVEN 'OUT OF 1600 FT, TURN L ON COURSE, CLR FOR TKOF.' I READ BACK THE CLRNC WORD FOR WORD, AND THAT IS WHAT THE CAPT BRIEFED FOR TKOF. ON DEP, WE TURNED ON COURSE AND A FEW MINS LATER, THE DEP CTLR ASKED 'WHO GAVE YOU ON COURSE.' I REPLIED, 'THE TWR.' HE SAID THEY DID NOT. NO CONFLICTS WERE INVOLVED. THE LCL CTLR WAS VERY BUSY. HE WAS WORKING CLRNC, GND, AND TWR. ALL WERE ON DIFFERENT FREQS. PEOPLE WERE TALKING ALL OVER EACH OTHER. IT SEEMED THAT THE CTLR WAS CONFUSED BECAUSE HE KEPT CALLING US DIFFERENT CALL SIGNS. IF A CTLR IS WORKING MULTIPLE FREQS, IT SHOULD BE REQUIRED THAT ONLY 1 FREQ BE USED. ALSO, EVERY DEP CLRNC BEGINS WITH 'OUT OF 1600 FT,' MAKING A DEP PROC WOULD BE A LOT EASIER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.